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driver pains, sweeper not helping

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce Drivers Section' started by Luggage, Nov 25, 2007.

  1. Luggage

    Luggage Member

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    GPU:
    XFX Geforce 7600GT 256Mb PCIe
    Solved: driver pains, nv4_disp.dll bsods

    Code:
    System information:
    
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 AM2
    MSI K9N SLI motherboard nForce 570 MCP chipset, onboard audio and network.
    Corsair Valueselect 3GB DDR2 533MHz dual channel
    XFX Geforce 7600GT 256MB PCIe
    windows xp pro 32bit sp2
    
    Hi everyone I just registered because I can't seem to get help anywhere else for this problem.

    it's, i think, the classic nvidia bsod infinite loop hell thing.

    I have a neat and clean running installation of xp pro sp2 (32bit) 6 months and counting, I didn't update my drivers in that time, don't fix it if it aint broken.

    But since some recent games had some less then expected performance and driver details mentioned that I decided it was time to do a whopping update from 93.x to the latest 163.75.

    I regret this decision on a daily basis now and can't seem to get it fixed.

    Here's what happened.

    I removed the driver using the software add/remove paneland rebooted in safe mode. ran sweeper and rebooted.

    bsod or stays black and never continues to desktop.

    a lot of cursing later, reboot in safe mode, install drivers reboot. working again.. humm okay.

    ran some games, sweet bioshock improved a bunch.
    my other new game (I bought a couple after a long pause in gaming) settlers 6, not as much luck. bsod nv4_disp.dll loops at certain points in the game. very recreatable. after testing other games and adding crysis to my new additions and playing thatwithout issues I concluded it must be settlers 6.
    I even tested crysis on max details, although it was a slideshow, it was a stable slideshow lol.

    now things have gotten worse. more games have started to act up now, I finished crysis by now without hitches, started a new black and white 2 profile (I have more ram since I last played it and was in the mood for it so i thought I give it a go again) it works great on max res max settings. finally.

    but yesterday black and white 2 crashed nv4 bsod... for some reason at the end of land 3, curiously settlers 6 seems to crash at certain specific points too (the first time you add a guard to wood delivery mission).

    I guess there is something wrong with the drivers still then.. weird though that it seems to rear it's ugly mug in certain games at certain points in those games though.

    also decided it was time to upgrade my nforce drivers.. maybe that's an issue with the new forceware or something.

    I didn't clean those first seeing as what happened after cleaning forceware, somewhere during setup of the new nforce drivers it hang.. -sigh-
    despite this everything was in working order after hitting reset.

    now for the forceware, this time manual cleaning without sweeper.

    -uninstall display drivers
    -hardware -> remove display device (just hoping I guess)
    -safe mode
    -remove nv4_disp.dll from system32
    -purposely left the registry cleaning this time to isolate any problem
    -reboot... bsod kernel_data_inpage_error stop: 0x0000007A win32k.sys

    -reboot safe mode, cancel new hardware, install drivers -sigh- reboot normal, everything seems fine again.

    now settlers 6 is unchanged, crashing at the same points, black and white 2 same but add a crash with crysis now aswell.

    I don't have complete dumps or bsod messages atm, I will post one once I recreate a crash again. basicly I'm getting the bsod mentioned above after removing the drivers and rebooting and nv4_disp.dll infinite loop errors when my driver is insalled and 'working'

    it only seems to affect 3D (games), I can toil with photoshop for days if I want without issues etc.

    I have one example of one of the early loop crashes in settlers 6 which apart from the nasty crash tendency cleaning the display driver brought the problem to my attention:

    Code:
    Opened log file 'c:\debuglog.txt'
    0: kd> .sympath srv*c:\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
    Symbol search path is: srv*c:\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
    0: kd> .reload;!analyze -v;r;kv;lmnt;.logclose;q
    Loading Kernel Symbols
    ...........................................................................................................................................
    Loading User Symbols
    Loading unloaded module list
    ...................
    Unable to load image nv4_disp.dll, Win32 error 0n2
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for nv4_disp.dll
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for nv4_disp.dll
    *******************************************************************************
    *                                                                             *
    *                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
    *                                                                             *
    *******************************************************************************
    
    SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED_M (1000007e)
    This is a very common bugcheck.  Usually the exception address pinpoints
    the driver/function that caused the problem.  Always note this address
    as well as the link date of the driver/image that contains this address.
    Some common problems are exception code 0x80000003.  This means a hard
    coded breakpoint or assertion was hit, but this system was booted
    /NODEBUG.  This is not supposed to happen as developers should never have
    hardcoded breakpoints in retail code, but ...
    If this happens, make sure a debugger gets connected, and the
    system is booted /DEBUG.  This will let us see why this breakpoint is
    happening.
    Arguments:
    Arg1: c0000005, The exception code that was not handled
    Arg2: bfb12f60, The address that the exception occurred at
    Arg3: b6db8c38, Exception Record Address
    Arg4: b6db8934, Context Record Address
    
    Debugging Details:
    ------------------
    
    
    
    
    EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - De instructie op 0x%08lx verwijst naar geheugen op 0x%08lx. De lees- of schrijfbewerking ("%s") op het geheugen is mislukt.
    
    FAULTING_IP: 
    nv4_disp+13ff60
    bfb12f60 8b4154          mov     eax,dword ptr [ecx+54h]
    
    EXCEPTION_RECORD:  b6db8c38 -- (.exr 0xffffffffb6db8c38)
    .exr 0xffffffffb6db8c38
    ExceptionAddress: bfb12f60 (nv4_disp+0x0013ff60)
       ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
      ExceptionFlags: 00000000
    NumberParameters: 2
       Parameter[0]: 00000000
       Parameter[1]: 00000054
    Attempt to read from address 00000054
    
    CONTEXT:  b6db8934 -- (.cxr 0xffffffffb6db8934)
    .cxr 0xffffffffb6db8934
    eax=00000000 ebx=e46d8c20 ecx=00000000 edx=00000000 esi=e46d8c80 edi=e249eb70
    eip=bfb12f60 esp=b6db8d00 ebp=e46b4b40 iopl=0         nv up ei pl zr na pe nc
    cs=0008  ss=0010  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=0030  gs=0000             efl=00010246
    nv4_disp+0x13ff60:
    bfb12f60 8b4154          mov     eax,dword ptr [ecx+54h] ds:0023:00000054=????????
    .cxr
    Resetting default scope
    
    CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT:  1
    
    PROCESS_NAME:  Settlers6.exe
    
    ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - De instructie op 0x%08lx verwijst naar geheugen op 0x%08lx. De lees- of schrijfbewerking ("%s") op het geheugen is mislukt.
    
    READ_ADDRESS:  00000054 
    
    BUGCHECK_STR:  0x7E
    
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  NULL_CLASS_PTR_DEREFERENCE
    
    LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER:  from bfb125c9 to bfb12f60
    
    STACK_TEXT:  
    WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
    b6db8cfc bfb125c9 e249e800 e46d8c80 e46b4b40 nv4_disp+0x13ff60
    b6db8dac 805ce84c 88c8fa60 00000000 00000000 nv4_disp+0x13f5c9
    b6db8ddc 8054535e b9c00fb0 e4201e10 00000000 nt!PspSystemThreadStartup+0x34
    00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 nt!KiThreadStartup+0x16
    
    
    FOLLOWUP_IP: 
    nv4_disp+13ff60
    bfb12f60 8b4154          mov     eax,dword ptr [ecx+54h]
    
    SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX:  0
    
    SYMBOL_NAME:  nv4_disp+13ff60
    
    FOLLOWUP_NAME:  MachineOwner
    
    MODULE_NAME: nv4_disp
    
    IMAGE_NAME:  nv4_disp.dll
    
    DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP:  470588d1
    
    STACK_COMMAND:  .cxr 0xffffffffb6db8934 ; kb
    
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  0x7E_nv4_disp+13ff60
    
    BUCKET_ID:  0x7E_nv4_disp+13ff60
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------
    
    eax=00000000 ebx=e46d8c20 ecx=00000000 edx=00000000 esi=e46d8c80 edi=e249eb70
    eip=bfb12f60 esp=b6db8d00 ebp=e46b4b40 iopl=0         nv up ei pl zr na pe nc
    cs=0008  ss=0010  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=0030  gs=0000             efl=00010246
    nv4_disp+0x13ff60:
    bfb12f60 8b4154          mov     eax,dword ptr [ecx+54h] ds:0023:00000054=????????
    ChildEBP RetAddr  Args to Child              
    WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
    b6db8cfc bfb125c9 e249e800 e46d8c80 e46b4b40 nv4_disp+0x13ff60
    b6db8dac 805ce84c 88c8fa60 00000000 00000000 nv4_disp+0x13f5c9
    b6db8ddc 8054535e b9c00fb0 e4201e10 00000000 nt!PspSystemThreadStartup+0x34 (FPO: [Non-Fpo])
    00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 nt!KiThreadStartup+0x16
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    ps. since a lot of quality guides mention removing the dll not even when in safe mode but simply after deinstalling the display driver I tried that aswell, it results in windows crashing seconds/minutes after removal.

    I have not had a single issue with this relatively newly built rig or windows setup in the 6 months I've owned it untill I decided to upgrade my forceware drivers for bioshock. The start it seems to me was the very unexpected driver cleaning causing crashes (removing manual, sweeper or even just only the dll will make xp inoperable untill you install forceware again in safemode.)

    this issue has me completely frustrated, i'm not a new player in the field and usually used to being the guy to call if you have a problem, but this has got me flustered.

    I can't find anything wrong, no conflicts or any reports of any kind in my device manager or anywhere else that I have found.

    One last thing I thought of is the extra ram although huge files in photoshop, finishing crysis and so on did not seem to have issues with it I will run a memtest somewhere today (will have to go buy empty cd's to brun a bootable memtest first) but I doubt its the ram. if it were then why doesn't it crash anywhere else but in 3d games and when cleaning the display driver before installing a new one.

    also since when does xp bsod because some device has no driver. that's a first in all my years. I was expecting a new hardware found window on boot, not a blue screen.

    other things checked: complete virus scan, defrag, different graphics settings in games, registry cleaning, multiple attempt at a troublefree removal/clean and reinstall of drivers.

    I don't like formats, formats should always be a last resort (since formatting is not the same as fixing/learning) but I would right now. But will have to wait to get more back-up space. some stuff I can't back-up yet due to size and can't lose either. wil have to see about borrowing a second hd to do that. can't afford a purchase atm.

    I'm sure I missed something or screwed chronology slightly since i've been toiling with this for a few days now. (but it started with wanting to upgrade for bioshock, the crash after cleaning was the first symptom).

    if anyone finds this familiar or has any idea apart from formatting just quite yet. please..
     
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  2. Year

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    there are 3 reasons for what is happening to you, the first one would be your PSU is about to give up the ghost and or failing so it isn't providing proper power to your vga card and causing all your troubles.

    the second reason would be your Ram and one of the sticks or even both of them are failing.

    third reason could be the nforce drivers specifically the Network ones, normally when you install the drivers for teh network it installs NAM (nvidia Armor firewall thing) and that's one of the biggest culprits of BSOD in windows messing with everything including your 3d card drivers so when you try to install the network and it asks to install the NAM thing cancel or do not accept it see what happend.

    that's all i can recommend, but i'm sure it'll end up being your PSU failing, either borrow one from a friend and try it or take a leap of faith and buy a new one. ;)
     
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    I seriously hope it's not my psu. I cant really afford any purchases atm.

    Also that would be weird though. none of the hardware is older then those 6 months mentioned inc the psu (430w cooler master extreme power), I never had any issues prior to uninstalling the old forceware drivers.
    and despite the driver uninstall crash (replicates every single time) and crashes in settlers, it let me play through crysis completely, and for long sessions.

    The nam thing you have mentioned, i will try that.
    For some reason the specific symptoms, especially issues uninstalling forceware (which was the first symptom) make me lean toward this being the problem, or at least something with the driver anyway.
    I did notice in my searches for this I often see the combo of nforce and geforce mentioned. my chipset doesn't even have the hw firewall but nforce drivers insal it anyway. will try this in a coupe of hours when im back home.
    any suggestion on how to proceed to uninstall nforce and forceware.
    preferably without a bsod after cleaning the drivers lol. (i've been in computers my whole life, i have never seen removing the old nv4_disp.dll cause crashes, but then I never had an nforce mobo/geforce card combo before either).

    Thanks for your answer, you are one of the few that i've seen giving some helpfull idea's and not recycling cr*p that's already been said over and over and more often then not, doesn't make any sense at all.

    about hw issues, wouldn't the problem be more widespread then just a handfull of 3d games (although it spread to crysis afterfiddling with driver installs some more.. hmm again that driver)

    other things im doing which push the system (and ram e.g.) that i do:

    graphics design, opening and editing huge 300dpi images in photoshop eating up most of my ram while doing that. no issues.

    black and white 2, no issues up to land 3 (consistent)
    settlers 6, no issues up to the 3rd or 4th campaign mission only at certain points (e.g. sending out my first guarded wood transport) (consistent)

    bioshock, no issues as of yet.

    simcity societies, no issues (except for being the lamest sim something game ever imho)

    other things I tried: nvidia stress test, no issue; Performancetest benchmark, no issue. any other desktop stuff (music, video, multitasking photoshop, notepad, music, sketchup, a download in the background and msn, no issues)

    anyway ill uninstall all my nvidia drivers through add/remove later to try what you said, wondering if I should even attempt running sweeper or cleaning manually after.

    I still need to get an empty cd to do a proper memtest86, will see to getting one asap, or else ill just sacrifice a dvdr (seems such a wast burning an mbyte on to a 4.7 gig dvd lol)

    Edit:

    come to think of it, I must have a smart psu then, consistently crashing everytime I remove nv4_disp.dll after add/remove-ing the display driver. ;) Tested 10 times, it's consistent.
    If it's my PSU wouldn't it be more random? I can recreate the crashes I have without fail by repeating what lead to the crash. This leads me to hope for your nam suggestion. I'm home now, I'm going to try to simply remove that piece first. see if it helps. If not I will reinstall all my nforce and geforce drivers but without that part and again see what happens.
     
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  4. Luggage

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    question, maybe my logic is failing me here.

    a faulty ra stick, could that cause such specific and recreatable crashes? I would think crashes would be random.

    I think one of my month old ram sticks might be causing it, memtest did display some errors but I did not have time to extensively test it yet to see which stick it is specifically.

    If a faulty ram stick can cause the very specific settlers crash and driver removal crash then I might just be in luck, i'm still within the time that I can simply go back to the store and not have to call corsair etc.

    ow well and if it's not the cause it will be the cause of something some day. I'll test the sticks soon as i have time for it and post here if it fixed all the issues after replacing it.
     

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    ok... I downloaded memtest86 latest version, burnt the image to a bootable cd, and let it check my ram yesterday, it boots checks and gives me a list after a little while containing the following:

    Code:
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    Error Confidence Value:                                      0         56
    Lowest Error Address  00000000000 - 0.0Mb                    1         24
    Highest Error Address 000FFFFFFFF - 4095.9Mb                 2         40
    Bits in error mask: 0001FFFC                                 3         56
    Bits in error-total: 15 min: 0 max: 14 avg: 8 7              4         72
    Max contiquous errors: 2                                     5         88
    ECC Correctable errors:                           84208028   6        104
    Errors per memory slot                                       7        120
                                                                 8        136
                                             538982199           9        152
                                                                10        168
    
    So my ram is faulty right? Well possibly but definitely not definite because here are the results from running a memtest on my the pc at my mothers home, It's a totally different system, diff type of ram, diff cpu, diff socket, diff graphics card, different everything and I get the following results from memtest:

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    Error Confidence Value:                                      0         56
    Lowest Error Address  00000000000 - 0.0Mb                    1         24
    Highest Error Address 000FFFFFFFF - 4095.9Mb                 2         40
    Bits in error mask: 0001FFFC                                 3         56
    Bits in error-total: 15 min: 0 max: 14 avg: 8 7              4         72
    Max contiquous errors: 2                                     5         88
    ECC Correctable errors:                           84208028   6        104
    Errors per memory slot                                       7        120
                                                                 8        136
                                             538982199           9        152
                                                                10        168
    
    identical results from 2 completely different machines, what gives? Something must be wrong with my memtest, isn't it like an astronomical chance to get exactly identical results (at mom's I also switched out dimms and slots but got the same result no matter the configuration) it's not even the same sie or type of ram (she's got SD Ive got ddr2, she's got 2x256mb, I got 2x512+2x1024)

    I can't really be sure or test which stick might be actually faulty with these results. But seeing this means my memtest testing results are bullocks at the moment correct?

    Anyone more experienced with memtest who might be able to tell me what im doing wrong or if memtest has a known bug causing this. I couldn't find anything on memtest's site.

    I was actually happy to see mem errors yesterday, at least that's easily fixable, I wouldn't even need to call corsair because I'm still within the period I can simply exchange the sticks at the store, but since I get identical (and thus bogus?) results on a totally different system I can't really be sure what to make of it, or test the seperate dimms on my machine if the results are the same for every dimm and even pc.

    help.... lol
     
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    I am getting the exact same errors on mine for memtest too. My pc has been running fine for almost 2 years no crashes.. I was going to oc a bit but now I have to figure this memtest error out. Very interesting that we are getting the exact same errors. I can't find any info on it either.



    This guys having it to but I can't read it:(
     
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  7. Luggage

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    Thought I wouldn't get a reply anymore :)

    Same numbers and all? Did you use the latest memtest86 or latest memtest86+ (confusing)

    I'm going to test the + today if I don't forget to buy new cd's (I have some dvd's here but I want to test the tester by running it again on my mom's machine aswell and she doesn't have a dvd rom in it, don't trust the tester like this)

    are you also having issues like me or is it just that you wanted to test and noted it's not working?

    personally im wondering how non-random the symptoms of faulty memory or a dieing psu could be. my logic would say it should be pretty random but my issues are not. at least a working memtest could have narrowed it down to memory or excluded it from my list of possibilities.

    Played crysis yesterday for 4 hours without issues :s some other games. no go. pretty important to know if it's the ram since this is not just a gaming home entertainment system.

    Nice to know i'm not just crazy though :)
     
  8. knivestv

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    A good hardware tester is the Dell diagnostics. Works on any PC and is available for download on the dell support site by selecting any desktop (XPS series have the best diags) from support.euro.dell.com

    I used them on my water cooled rig I built a couple of years ago and found a fault with the memory on my graphics card that plagued me for some time. I tried loads of testers from various places and reccomendations on forums, but nothing worked like the Dell diags. They also pointed out errors on a friends computer with his RAM which solved a similar problem you are having.

    I don't know why the Dell diags are so good, but they are so give them a shot for total PC diags that work.


    knivestv
     
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    That's funny. I'm out of cd's too. Only dvd's.

    Here's a little background. I'm not having any issues or bsods like you mentioned. I'v been running this pc for about 1 1/2 years with no problems. Been playing UT2K4 maxed out since I built the thing and recently FEAR and UT3 with no major problems.

    Since UT3 is so demanding I've decided to OC this sucker up to around 2.4-2.5 for a little boost. That's what prompted me to run memtest86. Low and behold I get that summary screen after about 5 seconds of it running.

    Now.

    I've run the windows based memtest for hours... No errors
    I'm running Prime95 as I speak. Nothing yet. <--- will update

    for memtest 86.

    tested each stick individually in dim b-1 <-- same error

    Then b-2 for ****s and giggles. <----same error


    I don't know about the dell diagnostics. I'll have to think about that one.
     
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    What's with your psu power 130w? Is that cause it's laptop?
     

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    Yep. Some pretty neat technology in this beast, including super low power usage. It can also run at extreme temperatures without failing. The graphics card temperature warning is set by the driver at 109 degrees c.

    I guess that explains the higher price, at least it explains some of it anyway.

    Performance is incredible. I have every game that I play running at 1920X1200 res which my desktop just can't do.

    I love it.

    knivestv
     
  12. Luggage

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    I'm guessing the original memtest86 has issues with modern technogoly despite the recent updates, honestly I should have gone for the updated memtest + the first time. http://www.memtest.org

    I got some cd's yesterday and burned a bootable with memtest86+
    I've tested my ram for 8 hours, totalling 6 passes overnight.
    I have 0 errors as is should be:

    [​IMG]

    (im not sure if im happy with the no errors results, if something were wrong with the test (motherbard or ram) I at least would have a culprit to blame.

    now back to reading the replies :)
    I can try the dell tool, but i'm 99% sure the internal code it uses to test mainboard en ram is memtest.
    The reason to use memtest is that the only thing missing is an official label as the standard testing tool for ram and motherboard faults.
    It's pretty much an accepted standard in the industry. If I go to the store and tell the clerk memtest showed me my new dimms are flawed he won't ask anything else. alas it's not my ram.

    Any way to test the psu? the values I can read out in windows seem stable enough and correct.

    You know what strikes me, I'v played crysis again yesterday for 4 hours before I started this test and went to bed. no issues.
    other game, 20 mins and I get somekind of nv4_disp.dll issue.
    I mean, Crysis runs lol, would laugh my ass off if it weren't so annoying.

    I think it's nvidia. it all started wth weird driver cleaning issues.. I still can't clean my driver. if I remove it, restart (or not doesnt matter really) in safe mode and remove nv4_disp.dll (one of the things the cleaning util does) and reboot in normal mode, I won't reach my desktop. if I remove it in normal mode, the computer will crawl down to a bsod within a minute.
    never ever had that in my whole life and i'm an avid nvidia user. Might be a clue but I wouldn't know of what.

    I never had issues with this, so im betting it's not the cause of my current problems either but anyone have the same motherboard as me? MSI K9N SLi (nforce 570mcp).
    I have had this system since I built it in january, I've let the mobo decide most of my settings using the settings the hardware tells it (e.g. spd's of the dimms and cpu) but since the past week or so that im having issues i've been diving into the bios more often and find it's not very accurate. But then I don't usually keep track of itty bitty details like does amd stock cpu speeds differ from the label, e.g. x2 4200+ 11x200=2200mhz becomes 2211 mhz. (this is the setting it set itself to out of the box.) ram set to 9v instead of 8 (ow well that one's no problem else memtest would have choked somewhere in the 8 hours worth of testing) I highly doubt this is the cause since i've been using the system happily for quite a while, it still has the first xp install even, haven't had a need to reinstall. (i keep things neat and tidy maintenance wise). But with the problems you just can't help but doubt even though the clockspeed never was an issue before, and it wasn't an issue playing crysis for 4 hours yesterday.

    This is getting me really frustrated.

    anyone ever had that cleaning forceware (especially nv4_disp.dll) causes crashes? (for those that prefer the utilities out there like driver sweeper and driver cleaner, they do the same thing and cause the same issue here.)

    gambl3, as I mentioned get the plus version from the link, it will run with our 'exotic' hardware :).
    While the test within windows is a good indicator it's not as definitive in finding either issues from your oc or hardware faults in your sticks/mobo. It can't test the parts that are already resered by windows, that is why it's so important to run it from boot, memtest does not even use dos to boot itself to avoid any and all os or somesuch files preventing it from testing certain area's of your ram. also it's just a test and not a diagnostic you would need to find a way to exclude things if you would find any error to find out what it is exactly. One last thing, 1 error in memtest is just as bad as 2000 errors in memtest.

    I'm sure you probably know all this, I just thought I'd mention it just in case and for anyone else having issues that might stumble across this thread while looking for help.
     
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    Hey worked for me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    so memtest86 is just not compatible with newer systems.

    Sorry about your other problems

    Good luck man
     
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    yes!..... ok perhaps not.

    I found it was indeed nvidia's NAM Network Access Manager causing the crash when I try to clean the nv4_disp.dll file.

    I removed the nam installation, cleaned the registry and retried the normal dirver update/rollback procedure.
    And finally no crash from cleaning the old files!!!
    I was really ecstatic thought I finally solved it.
    the procedure now went as it should, I checked the files afterwards for version numbers and they check out.
    So I finally thought I might have solved it, but no, black and white 2 still bsods, just this time it was more optimized I guess, it crashed faster after loading then before. Crysis still doesn't seem to mind and runs happily. settlers 6 bsods at certain points.

    I'm out of idea's... ram and mobo's tested, temps check out, driver installation works as it's supposed to again, the os is pretty darn clean, the only thing I haven't tried is the 169.x beta drivers. but seriously 163 can't be so bad that I need to update to a beta driver.
     
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    Well it's 'fixed' now, Ive tried several crashhappy games and the bsod is gone.
    I found out the factory clock on my xfx 7600gt (i shoud pay more attention to this) was overclocked, despite running fine since january, not having oc'ed myself (it's the model, checked their site) this was causing my nightmares.

    I've set it back to nvidia recommended stock speeds which is quite a bit slower but the bsod's gone now. (had to google for it, nvidia didnt have that tech info online anymore about the 7 series :s)

    Despite being very happy that the bsods are gone I can't help but feel a bit screwed. I did not purposely buy this specific card because of the higher clocks, But regardless, I'm now having performance lower then was promised by the product and what i paid for (though i didn't notice at the time)

    My warranty is still valid if I'm not mistaen and can find all the paperwork. Should I give xfx a call/e-mail?

    one last question, why do they overclock factory cards? (ok dumb question to compete ofcourse but still, whats a faster clock if it causes one after the other nv4_disp bsod after working for more then half a year without a hitch, faster wear and tear due to the oc?)
    Also this card apparently was designed by xfx to be overclocked quite a bit I noticed yesterday, not talking 10 mhz differences here. Yet the cooling build does not seem really made for the task (I never had heat issues though)
    And next time zI expect the box to say factory oc'ed at xxxmhz and xxxmhz in big fat letters on the box :) There's no hint on the box at all that this is anything else but a simple default 7600gt.

    also the psu might still be the culprit, lowering the clocks lowered the demand on the psu too... right?

    the final question remains, how would you go about this, contact xfx or not. it's stable at nvidia recommended safe values now, but it's not at factory settings. Also wonder why I haven't had any problems with it except for now. it's been quite a while since january. also wonder why crysis didn't seem to have any issues with it, but black and white 2 for example did.
    The fix did cost me 10 fps in crysis, not too much but not very nice either seeing as crysis didn't complain about any issues.

    stil weird but at least i can relax with a game other then crysis now and then again and i've been updated a bit again, ow we what do you expect from someone who was stuck at a geforce 3 ti-200 for years and years before being able to afford building this system :)

    edit: changed thread title to reflect it's solved status, added nv4_disp.dll in the title to aid anyone else looking for help on his or her nvidia issues.
     
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