Driver broke card?! (1050)

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce Drivers Section' started by Lex Luthor, Aug 23, 2017.

  1. Agent-A01

    Agent-A01 Ancient Guru

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    Maybe not new cards but yes a driver could kill a card years ago.
    Thermal protection was not introduced until kepler
     
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    None of those cases are the drivers directly killing a GPU. If you even slightly monitor your GPU's temperature, you could easily have avoided all those cases.
     
  3. Agent-A01

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    The average person doesn't monitor temps.
    Average joe who just plays WoW gets a driver that disabled the fan.

    No fan = overheating, a direct cause of a the driver.
    So yes, in the end, the driver killed the card.
     
  4. dr_rus

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    No it couldn't. A person who don't know what he's doing could but it's not the driver's fault.

    Also - overheating won't kill a card, it will just hang and PC will reboot. It's only if you will run your card with constant overheating that it will die eventually - but again, this isn't a problem of the driver.
     

  5. Agent-A01

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    You are dense dude.

    Older cards don't have thermal protection capability, just like the old AMD cpus.
    You remove the HSF and it will burn up.

    G80, G92, Tesla, fermi, etc did not have those functionalities

    You stress test the card and disable fan and you are getting hardware damage.

    It is a known and admitted issue from NVIDIA that the driver 197.13 had fan issues.
    FACT, if you still think "driver can't hurt a card" you are frankly dimwitted.

    Clearly you've already proved you're lacking technical-know-how about overheating wont kill a card

    News flash, power delivery has no way of being monitored so any components of said system that overheat go out by dying, not freezing.

    120c on a VRM component will cause some burning.
    VRM gets hotter than the GPU.
     
  6. dr_rus

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    Personal insults are only proving that you don't know what you're talking about, dude.

    Cooling issues may result in a card being unstable due to overheating but you, as in YOU, not the driver, have to push the card to the limits when it's already unstable to cause any kind of permanent h/w damage to it. So, no, driver can't kill a card. A stupid person can.

    And this is even before we're coming to a point which you're making - about a god knows how old driver with a god knows how old card all of which are probably dead these days anyway just from their old age. And the question in the OP was pretty obviously not about these old relics.
     
  7. Agent-A01

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    Fermi isn't an old relic.

    So you are telling me that a driver that turns off fans, to which NVIDIA admits that is true, is the result of a stupid person?

    My god, you are retarded.
    Go away dude, spout your bs elsewhere.

    Even NV says you are wrong.
     
  8. dr_rus

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    Sure it is.

    If you're off running 3DMark endurance test on such card then yes, you are a stupid person.

    That's what you should do, as fast as possible.

    Edit: Wasn't sure that I remember properly so I've checked -- and surprise! -- NV GPUs had thermal throttling even on NV4x family, let alone something like Fermi. Couldn't bother to look further as this is already enough to illustrate your knowledge level.
     
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