Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Nov 19, 2020.
Etailers should add a 'Hope' button to 'Buy' & 'Preorder'!
It was a dumb thing for him to do. I was watching the PCWorld podcast and one of them made a really good point. AMD's numbers could of been better than Nvidia's and a lot better than we all think. If you go to ibuypower, cyberpowerPC, etc and try and buy a PC you can get one with a 6800 GPU and a 5000 series CPU and have it built and delivered within a few weeks.
This could be AMD trying to rebuild their relationships with system builders as many of them in the past abandoned AMD for Intel. The same thing has been happening with laptop system builders as well with AMD making sure they are taken care of. I mean AMD made the 4700 APU series and made it exclusive to system builders only.
This probably isn't the only reason for short supply but it makes sense to be one of the reasons for short supply. Then slap on COVID and the year 2020 in general and you have the full picture.
I said this would happen and it did. If anyone did some research, then, you'd know that the extra capacity that was freed-up recently at TSMC was bought-up by AMD...to make more PS5 soc.
No-one except a few nerds like me at work are even talking about the latest AMD cpu and gpus. No-one cares at all. Nearly everyone wants a PS5, which is at least 30+ people. Guess what? No-one managed to get a PS5 either...
When is the last time a launch was not a paper launch? Maybe things are difference in US but in Canada pretty much every tech products launched in the last 2 years took 2-3 weeks minimum to be sort of available.
Last batch of Intel CPUs were fairly available.
Don't get me wrong, great tech usually sells out on release. Hey, same goes for PS5, good luck trying to get one.
We are living in a bit of a weird time right now too. Production will hit somewhat of a limit, due to the pandemic. Plus, there's a lot more people sat at home on furlough, bored and just spunking money because they have nothing to do. All this adds up.
Great Britain is island, not continent.
There is something wrong with these numbers. Only one, not too big store in Poland (Morele.NET), half an hour after the start of sales, announced that the cards are sold out and that they were sold to 48 people (for rx6800) and 52 people (for RX5800XT). I do not believe that Poland had any special preferences in the supply of these cards, which means that the data referred to in the article are false. I even thought about buying the RX6800XT but I will wait for Asus TUF.
Im not sure what people were expecting, if NVIDIA couldn't predict/meet demand, then there was no chance in hell that amd would, no matter what precautions they may have taken. they simply do not have the production capability.
given the state of crypto right now, it doesn't surprise me that cards are scarce.
Fortunately, I'm waiting on RX5700 replacement and the 3060Ti to launch....so I still got at least a couple months before being completely disappointed.
An entire continent is very misleading way to signify the importance of how many GPUs any place should get. Land mass or georgraphy does not = retail importance.
The entirety of Australia has almost half the population California. California is not a continent, and is in fact about 19 times smaller then australia. As well, california is more tech-oriented then most of australia.
But by your notion, Australia should have gotten a lot of cards compared to california, because "it's an entire continent"
Your notion literally is situated just to make something seem like a big deal when it isn't. Nor do i see where you have come up with the number 16.
Upgrade to 1440p 144Hz/165Hz so you can suffer with the rest of us and require a high end card.
AMD for months spread rumours behind the scenes that there'd be stock, intentionally getting this info "leaked" so every YouTuber has constantly been saying there'd be stock. I'd have probably had my 3080 last month if it weren't for AMD's lies. If I knew getting a 6800 XT would be impossible I would have back ordered a 3080 on launch day or as soon as back orders were allowed.
And a lot of us adopted ultrawide too. 1440p ultrawide (3440x1440@144hz) is effectively "3K" in pixels. After the giddy high FPS years of owning 1080p@144, the quest to reach over 100FPS again is quite real. I grabbed a 5700XT as a stopgap (2 weeks after upgrading monitor), it at least keeps me above 60 in AAA titles. It's a pretty good card and it's barely enough. My only viable upgrade options all cost $600-$1500. Having never spent more than $450 (once), I'm not antsy to pull the trigger on that. The monitor battle between real estate, clarity and speed is hard to win on all fronts. (shrug) I'll live.
The decision to upgrade monitor resolution has a pretty dramatic impact on framerates, and any desire to return to 100+ FPS has a dramatic impact on one's wallet. Sure is pretty though.
Bottom line is any goodwill they may have earned by doing a proper launch as opposed to nvidia's went out the window. They bungled it completely. It's just as shambolic as their competition, and when you're playing catchup, that's akin to yet again shooting yourself in the foot. They certainly haven't won any fans.
No one is going to care about the shortages in a year. They didn't lose anything lol
Wrong , everyone was warning us that the supply will not meet the demand , I have no idea where does this nonsense come from . And it has been like this for years , new releases always had initial shortages , this time it’s worse because there are more people sitting at home not allowed to travel and enjoy doing much outdoors, so more people want to do gaming , what the hell did we expect?
I bet you will clean it more ....
Some people did get cards, some did not. I did not get mine due to our shops not being ready.
But launch is not over. AMD had certain number of reference cards. And there is unknown number of non-reference cards.
But considering stupid number of variants there will be...
... next Wednesday we should revisit this. But certainly, there is going to be another wave of cards on that day. And it may be quite larger.
Of course. But I'm talking about here and now. It's a wasted opportunity, even more so considering they have a decent product and there were a lot of people ready to buy it, especially considering nvidia's supply woes. Who knows what's going to happen in a year. For all I know, I could be dead by then.