Downsampling with AMD: Guide and Demonstration

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon Drivers Section' started by BlackZero, Jul 25, 2012.

  1. xeltic

    xeltic Member

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    Is there any way around the black screen issue? Seemed like the resolution works on some games with fullscreen, like FC4 and DA:I even with mantle but on other games like TL2 it shows some random screen, what the ****?
     
  2. Dazza08

    Dazza08 Active Member

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    Hey Gals and Guys,

    Ive been reading up on downsampling with AMD and I am confused which method/utility still works or which is the best way.

    Ive tried using custom resolution utility and that didnt work for me. I used the Java one aswell and that doesnt add any of the resolutions that I try to add.

    What is currently the best way to downsample on a monitor with a native/max resolution of 1080p? Or is the whole downsampling without the latest card still very much a mess?

    Thanks guys.
     
  3. DrunkenDonkey

    DrunkenDonkey Master Guru

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    It is a mess, hit and miss mostly. GeDoSaTo to the rescue given you have DX9 title, otherwise better wait for the 2nd part of the omega drivers, which should be around soon.
     
  4. signex

    signex Ancient Guru

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    I think GeDoSato is the only app that works, but it's too much hassle for me with all the profiles and settings.
     

  5. Dazza08

    Dazza08 Active Member

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    Thanks for the replies.
    Yeh I tried GeDoSato and it works with a few of the games i tried it with but with stuttering. Although I do only have a 7870xt.
    I guess ill just have to wait for a better implementation of downsampling or upgrade my card :)
     
  6. DrunkenDonkey

    DrunkenDonkey Master Guru

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    You won't find better, the downsampling is having a negligible performance loss, the huge problem is that the game is rendering at twice or more the resolution and that wont change. The only amd card that can remotely be used for downsampling is 290/290x and on non-demanding titles. Hell 4k downsampling brought the 290 to its knees on games that are 10 years old.
     
  7. gx-x

    gx-x Maha Guru

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    downsampling from 1920x1440 to 1080p is enough and many mid range cards can do it. It beats SMAA and FXAA all day long. If you have a better GPU (something like 980 or 290x) and title supports MSAA then even better, looks gorgeous in 1080p (DS from 1440p to 1080p +4xMSAA). I played Dead Space 3 with almost everything maxed out, DS from 1440p to 1080p and 2xMSAA on GeForce 650Ti Boost 2GB, min fps ~30ish, average ~45, v-sync on, dx triple buffering forced. I could also use nvInspector and force one of many SuperSampling modes available, not just for DeadSpace, for basically any game, as long as I had the "horsepower"

    Now with this more powerful GPU I can't do jack s*it.
     
  8. Agonist

    Agonist Ancient Guru

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    It is frustrating. Geodasato was a savior for downsampling with my 7950 crossfire and eyefinity but not for dx11 games.
    Now I have a R9 290 and guess what, vsr resolutions dont show up if your using mixed mode eyefinity.
    The vsr resolutions show up indivdually for each monitor.
    BF4 on ultra @ 2560x1600 with 4xMSAA looks killer on my main monitor which is 16850x1050 but I prefer 3 monitors.
    I really hope Omega drivers expand on vsr and allow custom resolutions as well.

    I have a 650ti 1gb in my second rig and I could 2560x1600 on a 1280x1024 monitor.
     
  9. xeltic

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    Does anyone know if the custom monitor drivers edit the EDID?
     
  10. dmr2

    dmr2 Member Guru

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    Hello. Can anyone help me with this. I have 1920x1200 monitor and I use this registry key and works perfectly but I get only 16:9 resolutions 2560x1440 and 2720x1536. What should I change in this code to get resolutions 2560:1600 and 2720:1700 filled in 1920x1200. I tried only change hex code for vertical resolutions 1440 to 1600 and 1536 to 1700 but picture stay in 1080p frame and get black bars from all 4 sides. Thanks!!!

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  11. AATT

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    Is there a way to apply any sort of downsampling/SSAA to DX8 games?
    Tried to understand and read some things here and there but can't figure it out.
     
  12. gx-x

    gx-x Maha Guru

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    There is a way, buy nVidia card. Now I know some of you will think I am trolling but I am not. He asked for a way, I gave it to him, so don't judge!
     
  13. Demrock

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    Yeah its time for me to go back to team green after a decade :)

    Cant deal with this bullsh!t anymore from AMD.

    Selling my 7950 this summer and with AMD's new lineup Nvidia will drop the price of their 980 and buy that one or the 980ti if its priced competitive.

    Seems Nvidia doesnt have a phantom scaler :bang:
     
  14. PrMinisterGR

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    If you are not a troll, please tell us which are the titles that you have a problem with. Not "some game", specific titles, setup, and drivers. Thanks.

    I'm not one to defend The Mac, but griffz said that nothing works without giving any kind of extra information and simply stating that CFX is worthless, which is obvious trolly cr*p.
    If he can come up with something specific, then we can all say bad things about The Mac all day, ok? :D

    DX8 games change their resolution depending on what they see that your monitor supports. VSR works for e v e r y t h i n g, but the game itself has to be able to render higher. If the game can't, it's not VSR's (or DSR's, or of any kind of downsampling's) fault.
     
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    Reshade or ENB converter + GeDoSaTo.
     

  16. theoneofgod

    theoneofgod Ancient Guru

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    VSR works on your 7950 by the way...
     
  17. gx-x

    gx-x Maha Guru

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    No thanks to AMD though :) I can understand him. He feels like he is treated like...well, you know :)
     
  18. sammarbella

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    If you look at his hardware under his nickname he seems to have: "7950x2" what could means he has TWO 7950 in crossfire.

    Modded drivers could add the "hardware" VSR to 7950 but there is no driver or modded driver able to add CROSSFIRE VSR to them.
     
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    Don't work for CRT like usual :D
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    Any sugestions?
     
  20. theoneofgod

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    I downsample 1920x1200 -> 2560x1600 with crossfire so yeah that shouldn't make a difference.
     

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