or maybe u know someone that does? U know how people say it's due to marketing whereby the companies have the technology to create very high end gpus or cpus but they slowly release them into the market and they wait for a substantial time to pass before releasing them. I was thinking who knows maybe the lab techs working for ati have a gpu that's 1 more newer generation than the current 5870? Obviously it's not going to be released to the public until many months later but their using it for their personal amusement. I am just curious what those guys have and what is actually available to the public.