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Does anybody here runs W7 on Ryzen?

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by x58haze, Dec 26, 2017.

  1. x58haze

    x58haze Master Guru

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    Does anybody here runs a ryzen pc on Windows 7 platforms, if so, how good it is? because i'm having some glitches and unsupported hardware while trying to get the updates via (windows update) I tried already Zefy patch, but persist, also i get horizontal lines (such tearing effects) in desktop also games, videos ,etc,etc

    This is only happening in Windows 7, all drivers updated, etc etc

    Note: something weird is that, If i let windows manage the Audio-drivers, that can be a real problem while playing games... I have notice that my pc will audio-crack, such Robotic sounds, and totally freezing the game for many seconds, until I close.....


    PC SPECS: AB350 Fatality k4 Gaming:
    CPU: Ryzen 1600 (YD1600BBM6IAE) - Summit Ridge" "Rev b1" "Freq 3.2GHz" "power 65W" "Cache 3MB" "bios P1.30"
    GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0
    RAM: PATRIOT VIPER PV48G320C6K 2x4 16-18-18-36 1.35v


    My problem is that i get such a weird horizontal line, in my monitor in Games, web-browsing videos, in games is more notable.... very annoying all drivers updated, directx updated, microsoft Visual C updates, etc,etc

    Does anybody has problems? thanks
     
  2. Agonist

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    The tearing, horizontal lines, are a gpu/driver issue. Not ryzen IMHO.

    Personally I use Win 10 for my ryzen, and in no way in hell gonna try to run Win 7 on it.
    Its an 8 year old OS.

    For the hell of it I could try Win 7 with my 80GB raptor in my X58 rig on my ryzen setup but I have an AMD gpu so I cant replicate the GPU issues you are having.

    The audio, maybe try the driver directly from Realtek instead of AsRocks driver. I use a sound card myself, so I have never used the asrock audio driver on my Killer SlI/ac board. Your board is very similar to mine though.
     
  3. DW75

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    I run Ryzen on Windows 7 64 Bit. Everything runs without any issues at all. I can't stand Windows 10. It is a spyware infested cesspool.
     
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  4. thatguy91

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    Windows10 isn't spyware, that BS needs to quit. In any case, you're still going to run Windows 7 in 5 years? It won't run too well with Ryzen 3/4 or Sapphire Rapids.
     
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  6. x58haze

    x58haze Master Guru

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    The thing is my GPU is kinda new from July 2017 :/ I never overclocked the gpu...

    Tried many Drivers already the official that came with the DVD 375, and 385 and 388 latest one... problem persist in Latency Mon i keep getting like high NVLDDM.sys and dxgkernel.sys

    it is very annoying....
    Tried already Zefy patch, to avoid the unsupported hardware while updating, and sometimes it prompt the (unsupported hardware) for that reason i rather use Windows-mini update tool x64.

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  7. x58haze

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    This is driven me crazy :/ i really like Windows 7, should I try windows 8.1 instead?
     
  8. GroinShooter

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    If that's what you're considering then you could just straight up install Win10.
     
  9. mbk1969

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    I don`t see what are you crazy about. I see normal times for ISR and for DPC routines in that picture. You should consult LatencyMon namely for these two values.

    You already tried Win10, right?

    I would not stay on Win7, if you have not tried Win8.1 yet then go for it.
     
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  10. DW75

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    No, because Windows 8.1 no longer has AM4 chipset driver support. It is only on Windows 7 and Windows 10. Windows 8.1 has had no new AM4 drivers for 6 months. Windows 7 is an awesome and completely stable OS. I just refuse to use Windows 10. To each their own.
     
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  11. DW75

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    x58hase, if you need help, I can message you some instructions on how to properly set up Ryzen with Windows 7. Microsoft has attempted to stop people from using Windows 7. Right out of the gate after a clean windows install, you are forced to wait for hours for windows update to stop "searching for updates". I have a patch that gets around this as well.
     
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    win7 pro, 1700, msi pro carbon, reference 480. not experiencing any issues youre describing. audio pops/glitches & your dpc latency appears to be a driver-based issue at cursory evaluation, which win10 sure as scheiße wouldnt help to fix. dont use wupdate to manage audio, delete driver & manually DL/install newest version from source. gpu tearing/flicker also seems evident of driver issue. have you used DDU to wipe+reinstall?

    going win10 to circumvent wupdate frustration alone is a bit like chopping a leg off in order to enter a one-legged race if you ask me...good luck troubleshooting. i bet there are ways to fix those bugs.
     
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  14. x58haze

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    Hello thanks for your comment, yeah I always use DDU-UNINSTALLER, to wipe out the old drivers from Nvidia, and reinstall new ones

    I tried Drivers from Windows Catalog, tried drivers from Nvidia Manufacturers, tried like 5-6 drivers, and same problem, I see horizontal lines in videos etc,etc
    Already all directx updated etc etc

    @mbk1969 Thanks also for your comment buddy, but i uploaded the latency mon picture to show the spikes on gpu, because im getting horizontal line, probably i will be checking for another Windows 7 64 bit version ,and pay attention to LEGACY-VS UEFI, CSM etc,etc secure boot, was reading that, that may cause conflicts



    @DW75 Hey, I would highly appreciate if you can guidance me a little be regardless to windows 7 ,because I think problems can be because of BIOS? I was reading some interesting about Legacy Vs UEFI CSM, and secure boots, in AMD-RYZEN forums in windows 7, it seems that there are hidden tweaks, perfect ways to runs proprly Ryzen 7 among with all their 3.1 3.0 usb updates, very well configured, so if we can talk through private, i will appreciate

    @agantyr Thanks i will give it a look.
    Also as always i'm very grateful to be here in Guru3d, people is so kind, thanks =D everyone.
     
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    Those ISR and DPC values in your picture are small, so no big spikes.
    As for Windows versions you should realize that WIn8.1 has more incorporated drivers for newer HW comparing to Win7, and Win10 has more incorporated drivers for newer HW comparing to Win8.1. That helps in case OEM stopped to publish drivers or you can`t find them.
     
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  17. Angantyr

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    Sorry for the late answer, and that my first post in this thread was so vague, holiday business ;).
    But yeah, UpdatePack7R2-17.12.15 which I linked is a complete package of all Windows 7 updates, with some minor adjustments. Its what I use myself, and its been a flawless experience for getting the system up to date.

    The adjustments done to the updates are, IMO, quite beneficial;
    KB2952664 ("Get Windows 10" Assistant)
    KB2976978 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 8)
    KB2977759 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7)
    KB2990214 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7)
    KB3012973 (Force Trigger Download and Install of Windows 10)
    KB3015249 (Adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 7 & Windows 8)
    KB3021917 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation + Telemetry)
    KB3022345 (Telemetry)
    KB3035583 (GWX Update installs the "Get Windows 10" app in Windows 7 & Windows 8)
    KB3042058 (Microsoft claims its a security update but it contains Winlogon Spying)
    KB3044374 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8 systems)
    KB3050267
    (Windows 10 upgrade preparation but also adds the option in GPEDIT to disable Windows 10 upgrade altogether so you may want to actually install this)
    KB3064683 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8)
    KB3065987 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7)
    KB3065988 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8)
    KB3068708 (Telemetry)
    KB3072318 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 8)
    KB3074677 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)
    KB3075249 (Telemetry)
    KB3075851 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7)
    KB3075853 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8)
    KB3080149 (Telemetry)
    KB3081437 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)
    KB3081454 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)
    KB3081954 (Telemetry Update for Windows 7)
    KB3083324 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7)
    KB3083325 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 8)
    KB3083710 (Update for the Windows Update client with sketchy details for Windows 7, see this thread)
    KB3083711 (Update for the Windows Update client with sketchy details for Windows 8, see this thread)
    KB3086255 (Flagged as an Important update. It disables SafeDisc games in Windows Vista, 7, and 8/8.1)
    KB3088195 (Miscorosft Claims it's a security update but also has a key logger on the Kernel Level)
    KB3090045 (Windows 10 Upgrade Update for Windows 7/8)
    KB3093983 (Microsoft claims it's a security update but it contains IE spying)
    KB3102810 (Fixes an issue regarding long wait while searching for Windows Updates but also has Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7)
    KB3102812 (Fixes an issue regarding long wait while searching for Windows Updates but also has Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 8)
    KB3107998 (Removes Lenovo USB Blocker)
    KB3112336 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8)
    KB3112343 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7)
    KB3123862 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7 & 8)
    KB3125574 (Telemetry for Windows 7)
    KB3133977 (adds UEFI Secure Boot to Windows 7 computers and renders them unbootable)
    KB3135445 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7)
    KB3135449 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8)
    KB3138612 (Fishy update to for Windows Updates)
    KB3138615

    KB3139929 (Fishy update for Windows 7/8 to Windows 10 Upgrade)
    KB3146449 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7/8)
    KB3150513 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7/8)
    KB3173040 (Windows 10 Upgrade notice)
    KB4012218 (Windows Update processor generation detection)
    KB4012219 (Windows Update processor generation detection)
    KB4015546 (Hardware check for CPU Platform for Windows 7)
    KB4015547 (Hardware check for CPU Platform for Windows 8)
    KB2976978 (Useless diagnostics update for those who participated in the Windows improvement program)

    And just for good measure, here are the checksums;
     
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    Thanks so much, so basically this Update, also removes unnecessary updates from Windows 7, also installed good updates to allow CPU compatibility on Ryzen 7 and kaby-lake i guess?


    I already dowload 600 megas, and yeah im happy with this update, because now windows update don't prompt the message of "unsupported hardware)

    By the moment I have an old iso of Windows 7 SP1 X64 12in1 OEM ESD en-US Jan 2017 user is (GEN2) he was very famous when extratorrents page was up, with tons of Download and good rating

    So probably i will be formating the SSD with the rufus and set as MBR like always and ntf, but now this time, while formating the SSD
    I will try to check with SHIFT+f10 to open cmd while formating the SSD and convert to MBR, because sometimes the partition will ignore the MBR from rufus and keeps as GPET


    So another thing, does Windows 7 is non-compatible with EFI? when i tried to run the CSM ON with EFI it wont show video, i can hear the windows boot sound, but not video.

    Also windows 7 doesn't support SECURE_BOT? right?
     
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    Wow I cant believe people would actually be happy with their systems so hacked together from a software stand point.

    Glad I don't do anything worth "spying" on. Windows 10 ftw, I highly recommend upgrading!
     
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    I'm surprised at this point to see that you didn't take advantage of the free update to Win10x64 that your licensed copy of Win7x64 retail would have provided for you. Or have you? Taking the free update doesn't invalidate your Win7x64 license, btw--you could still use it provided you weren't using your upgraded Win10x64 license simultaneously. If your Win7x64 license was a retail license (not an OEM license--and it doesn't seem likely yours can be anything but retail based on your current motherboard) then a Windows 10x64 upgrade license from it will follow you for life..! I just upgraded my cpu, motherboard and ram, and was able to activate my retail Win8/.1 license-upgraded copy of Win10x64 to current activation status because it was a retail, not OEM license. But even if you are running a bootleg copy of Win7x64 Ultimate, then if you buy the Win10x64 Pro license *once* at retail--it will follow you for life, no matter how many times you upgrade your hardware. So, either way, even if you have to buy it, if you buy a retail license it's one heck of a deal, imo.

    As others have mentioned, the newer hardware is designed and built around UEFI, and while it's possible to run a Win7 UEFI system, it isn't the preferred scenario by a longshot. Microsoft now is pouring 100% of its resources into Win10--Win7/8.1 will be supported only with security updates from now on until they EOL. Hope you get it figured, as it really doesn't make a lot of sense to buy new hardware and then hobble it with much older OS software, imo.
     
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