DIY repairs on your Cars or Bikes ? Ask Questions here

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  1. thatguy91

    thatguy91 Ancient Guru

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    In regards to the sillycar, you would think a user with the name Mufflore would know more about cars :). I guess then working on the car is an exhausting process :D.

    Jokes aside, you could probably change over some bushings whilst your there with aftermarket polyurethane replacements. This can improve handling if you do the right ones. Best to do for biggest result are the sway bar D bushes. For noise be mindful of the tyres you get, some are loud and some are quiet, and more expensive isn't necessarily better for this. You could also paint under your car with sound deadener, in particular the wheel arches and immediate underbody area. This can significantly quieten things down.
     
  2. Mufflore

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    No tyre rub, the tyre walls are mint (just checked again). Nothing is close to the tyres/wheel rims.
    The rear tyres have been on it since I bought it and the walls have no damage.

    The suspension hasnt been repaired yet which is why I am here asking for suggestions.
    I hope to identify potential causes before it goes into the workshop.
    I'm worried that when the suspension is fixed the higher level noise will return.
     
  3. Mufflore

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    Haha.
    My name is based on a different style of muff ;)

    Thanks for the tip on bushes. If things look rough when its under the knife I may do that.
    I have some less noisy tyres in the pipeline.
    Bear in mind that when the spring broke, the noise from the rear became less than half and the car now runs more freely.
    I dont want to lose that when its repaired.
     
  4. Mufflore

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    Perhaps consider making it a Yammy/Suzuki etc hybrid to increase the choice of parts.
    Assuming your country allows your bike to be modded.
    Clear it with your insurance as some modifications might null the policy if undeclared.
     

  5. Mufflore

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    My thoughts... maybe:
    It looks to be increased bearing noise when the suspension places the car correctly.
    How this can manifest I wonder.
    If the bearing is in good condition it would have to be extra stress placed on the bearing, not sure how that can happen.
    Or perhaps the bearing(s) are worn but not so much that they show a problem when the wheel is free running in the air so havent been diagnosed.
    An inspection is needed.

    I have to wonder if the angle of wheel to the road changes when the suspension compresses.
    This would help explain the difference now one strut is an inch lower.
    If one tyre is slightly tilted it may reduce the contact patch on the road, decreasing noise and friction.
    But I cant see how this explains a huge change in noise and the car still runs straight.
     
  6. CalculuS

    CalculuS Ancient Guru

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    Insurance is very lax on modifications at all. There are only safety rules for vehicle frame structure/brake lights/mirrors which don't even apply to a lot of smaller bikes.

    The bike uses a Minarelli AM6 engine and Derbi, Aprillia, Yamaha and Rieju all use this engine so engine parts are widespread but anything else is not compatible at all. The Yamaha TZR50/Aprillia RS50/Derbi GPR50/Rieju RS2 50 all look the same but literally none of the fairings or other parts fit besides the transmission/engine.
     
  7. IcE

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    Good idea. I'm pretty knowledgeable about working on cars. I've spent the last two years teaching myself. Guess it was the natural evolution from growing up working on computers as a kid.

    For starters I'm gonna chime in about the broken spring bit. In the UK, a spring can break simply from corrosion and nothing else. Same in certain parts of the U.S. Australia? Not so much ;)
    I've seen snapped springs on so many Ford products in particular. The coils aren't treated well enough for long term abuse by salt. On the Taurus in particular they love to snap, spin around, and puncture your tire as an extra insult to your wallet.
     
  8. thatguy91

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    They tried to introduce the Taurus here in the late 90's, possibly as a Falcon replacement, however it ended in a tremendous failure. The build quality was atrocious, and even with cars a couple of years old it was more the case of trying to identify parts that weren't breaking, already broken, or abnormally wearing in some way. That's if the car made it that long!
     
  9. Evildead666

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    It's definitely a bit of a worry, as I'm sure the noise will come back when youve fixed the spring.
    The wheel angle shouldn't change that much, especially if its front wheel drive. The rear will just be on a swing arm, that goes vertically.

    I suppose it could have been the spring rumbling, if it was a little loose. The fact that its compressed now, would get rid of the slack, and the rumbling.
    I don't think its the bearing, it would make the same noise all the time, no matter what the spring is doing...
     
  10. Mufflore

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    Nothing really makes sense.
    I visited the garage a moment ago to ask their opinion.
    They said keep driving it as it is lol.
    They havent any idea why it is more responsive now, but the main guy wasnt in. I'm booked to see him next week.
     
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  11. Mufflore

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    My feeling too.
    The car had been stood in water before I got it, I figured this was probably responsible for the break.
    This is why I'm replacing both entire shocks to remove future issues.
     
  12. Evildead666

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    Well, mainly just to keep this visible, I'm adding a few updates of what I've done to my car.

    Finished the rear Disc's and the wheel bearings, was actually very easy.
    Changed the rear right brake caliper, and all four of the brake flexible hoses.
    then had to bleed all the brakes.
    Got a couple of new tyres for the front, because they were old and cracked, and just shot.

    Have a big one coming up : I have to change the rubber protection on the front left driveshaft, gearbox side.
    The Haynes manual says "Let a VW technician do it, it needs a hydraulic press and specialised tools". I hate it when they say "Use the specific tool" without a picture or explanation of what the bloody tool is!

    Having ordered the part before checking the haynes book, I checked online, and found a website where someone has nicely done a picture by picture explanation of how to do it.
    They took out the whole driveshaft, and changed both of the rubber protections, but I only have the inner one to do, and since that side of the driveshaft comes off first, i may try and do it while it is still attached to the car, working underneath.
    Hopefully there won't be any need to whack anything to get it apart, otherwise I may just have to take the whole driveshaft off.

    After that, I'm pretty sure I'll just have an exhaust silencer to replace or repair, and then i can finally try and get the thing through an MOT :)

    Not sure if I mentioned it, but its a 1989 VW Passat 1.8i 8V (112bhp), which is the same engine as in the MK I Golf GTi 8V (115bhp).
    Its also the last year without a catalyctic converter, so the exhaust note is great. As standard, it has a 4->2->1 exhaust manifold layout, which is also great. I don't know of many cars that have that as standard.
    Also, the air intake is through the VW badge in the front bumper :) VW were very cool in their ideas back then....
     
  13. Mufflore

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    An FYI if you order tyres.

    I placed an order for 2 tyres from www.tyreleader.co.uk and only got one.
    They list a set of instructions what you should do if the delivery goes titsup but I cant dive in the house to read that when the delivery guy is waiting so didnt do what they ask.
    They dont have a phone number or email address so went to raise the issue with their online support page.

    Unfortunately they categorise the problems distinctly, you are forced to choose only those.
    There was none for this problem so I had to raise it as a change request to replace with something else.
    Its been a few hours since I raised the request.
    They have not sent confirmation of receiving it.

    I paid with a credit card so should be able to get it resolved eventually, but this is holding up my cars MOT now and has created a pita.
    I may have to order another tyre from somewhere else to resolve it quickly.

    I'll post back with what happens.
     
  14. Mufflore

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    I got no response to my request for support.
    Among the info on their website was an email address spelled without the @ sign, cm(a)adtyre.com.
    They said I should email support@tyreleader.co.uk

    Emailed them explaining the problem, they said I should open a ticket, completely ignoring my request for support.
    I explained I have already opened one.
    Next day they said there is no open ticket.
    I gave them the ticket number I had opened and what I put in it.

    I guess I'll have to wait until next week for a response, they only respond around 9am in the morning, 1 email a day.
    I'm not using them again when this is over, I need my f***ing tyre!
    Talk about dragging the process out.
     
  15. thatguy91

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    That sucks. How much are you saving by buying the tyres online?
     

  16. Mufflore

    Mufflore Ancient Guru

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    I dont know any more, I've been buying tyres this way for over 10 years and having them fitted/balanced locally.
    It was a lot cheaper than buying from a garage/local tyre shop then and no doubt still is.
    Perhaps its wise to use a company that is in your country though, tyreleader is in Germany, I am UK.

    The previous people I bought from werent the cheapest this time round, they are about £20 more for my specific tyre oddly (Nokian WR4).
    But I had no trouble ordering from them last time.
    mytyres.co.uk
    Be warned, they let you know they exist weekly by email :)
    fyi

    edit
    I just found out that Mytyres add a £5 charge for ordering a single tyre so I didnt get one from them.
    The price had dropped to an acceptable level without the extra charge but it was cheaper from Oponeo in the end.
    fyi
     
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  17. Mufflore

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    This didnt go well.
    I asked them to open a ticket for me if they cannot find one on my account.
    Monday the support guy said he had created a ticket for me but I couldnt find any evidence of it.
    No response Tuesday yet they say they will respond within 24hrs.
    I threatened handing it over to the bank and they responded to that.
    But it was still slow progress so I asked for a refund which they accepted.
    I'll know in a few days if that has gone through.
    I bought another tyre from elsewhere.

    Short of this is, dont buy from TyreLeader !!
     
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  18. Evildead666

    Evildead666 Master Guru

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    @Mufflore : Good lord. Talk about making a pigs ear of it! :)
    I was in a rush and got two non-brand name tyres for my Passat, but made by Hankook none the less.

    It just passed the MOT wednesday :)
    It shouldn't have by my standards, it turns out not one, but three of the four drive shaft rubber protections are pierced, and one is leaking grease all over the gearbox (that was the one I knew about, and was going to change).
    I'm pretty sure there is a hole in the exhaust somewhere, and was hoping the MOT people would be able to point it out. It somehow passed the emissions test, and i'm going to have to find the hole anyway, because I get popping sounds if i accelerate hard, and then lift my foot off the accelerator pedal.

    Our Peugeot 306 somehow passed a week or so ago, where the rear right wheel touches the inner bodywork when you go on a right turn bend. the wheel can move, if only a little, and it bloody passed the MOT!! (in France, not UK).
     

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