Display Driver Uninstaller Thread

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon Drivers Section' started by Wagnard, Jul 14, 2013.

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  1. valkyrjur

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    Ok, anyway keep the hard work and sorry if I sound rude.
     
  2. Wagnard

    Wagnard Ancient Guru

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    No worries, I understand how frustrating it could be to reinstall an OS.

    Im curious about 1 thing. How could you not repair windows? you didnt have a restore point?

    Additional info :
    This was Win 10 problem + amd card combinason only. (Win 10 changed some important stuff in the background compared with win 8.1 and lower.)
    This should be fixed with 15.0.0.1
     
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    Thanks for fixing it valkyrjur.

    Somehow my system just managed to boot, after a whole bunch of failures last night.

    I've still got the inaccessible_boot_device error though, so no luck on that part. Care to explain what caused this, exactly? Just out of interest.
     
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    I didn't fix anything :giggle2:, I just reinstall the whole OS, because I hadn't system restore points. (I disabled it).
     

  5. Wagnard

    Wagnard Ancient Guru

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    The problem was caused by a difference from the earlier windows version.
    There is a device that I started to remove with 15.0.0.0 its a lowerfiler hooked to the PCI Express Root Context (or on some system, the PCI bus)

    To remove this lower filter I update the device with the windows inf named "Machine.inf" then after this I remove the service AMDKMPFD.

    The thing is, on windows 10 they changed the INf. its not named "machine.inf" anymore but "PCI.INF"

    So the driver update failed and DDU was still removing the service.

    The result, the PCI express root context wont work because 1 of it associated service is removed. And by so produce BSODs.

    For the moment , DDU 15.0.0.1 workaround thhis by not blindly removing the AMDKMPFD service if DDU can still find its lowerfiler.

    Next version of DDU will have the machine.inf change to pci.inf for windows 10

    Reason I didnt fix this at same time on 15.0.0.1 its because I wasnt aware exactly what was going on on windows 10 to make the driver update fail until recently.

    Anyway to summarize , the problem should not happen with DDU 15.0.0.1 becasue the service and device doesnt get removed anymore with the check I added. Next version of DDU will remove it correctly for this OS.

    A system restore point would have save you quite a lot of time :)
     
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  6. PrMinisterGR

    PrMinisterGR Ancient Guru

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    It's a beta os, with beta drivers. All of us who have done this know that we will eventually pay the iron price :D
     
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    Sorry, I meant Wagnard :giggle2:

    My machine still refuses to POST sometimes. It runs for a minute or so without doing anything, then reboots and starts up fine. It can't be a coincidence that this happened right after using DDU.

    I've just reverted to a previous build, courtesy of the blue startup/troubleshoot screen. Trying to escape yet another reinstall here.
     
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    Wagnard Ancient Guru

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    The post issue is not related to DDU. That I'm sure of it.
    Check Your over clock if any or hardware
     
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    Yeah it is pretty far-fetched. Weird coincidence then.

    I've managed to boot into Windows after reverting back to 10041. I think I'll stay on the slow ring for a while!
     
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    After another DDU clean yesterday, the POST issue returned. Leaving the computer with the PSU turned off over night remedied it: now it boots properly most of the time. Like before.

    This might be an issue specific to me, but it definitely has something to do with DDU!
     

  11. Wagnard

    Wagnard Ancient Guru

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    Like I said, DDU can't break a system post.the very first thing it could affect is Windows boot.
     
  12. PrMinisterGR

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    Sounds like bad motherboard capacitors/PSU man. Try to change the PSU at least and see if the problems persist. As Wagnard told you, the most his program can f*ck up is the Windows installation. Anything more than that is your hardware I'm afraid.
     
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    Yeah, I get that. My hardware has been falling apart lately.

    I'm still convinced DDU caused some kind of chain reaction though. It can't be a coincidence that this issue showed up out of nowhere, twice, on the first reboot after cleaning.

    Which makes me wonder: does DDU do a soft or hard reboot?
     
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    Just a heads-up for the next DDU version:

    The Windows Update drivers 15.200.1018.1 (15.20-wNxt-150401a-180730E-ATI) come packed with CCC now, with it's own entry under Programs and Features: "AMD Catalyst Control Center", which DDU doesn't remove.

    Exported registry node:
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    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\WUCCCApp]
    "DisplayIcon"="C:\\Windows\\system32\\msiexec.exe"
    "DisplayName"="AMD Catalyst Control Center"
    "DisplayVersion"="1.00.0000"
    "InstallLocation"="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Common Files\\AMD"
    "Publisher"="AMD"
    "UninstallString"="\"C:\\AMD\\WU-CCC2\\ccc2_install\\WULaunchApp.exe\" -uninstall"
    
    This starts being problematic when a user deletes the C:\AMD\... folder, which effectively kills the uninstall procedure. /facepalm AMD! :3eyes:
     
  15. Wagnard

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    DDU use this system command for reboot: "shutdown /r /t 0"
    Thanks for the info, more work for me it seems /facepalm
    The good thing tho, is that DDU doesnt use the AMD uninstall procedure, all is manually done :)

    Edit, to remove this from program and feature, simply edit packages.cfg (from the ddu/settings/amd folder) and add this without the quote "wucccapp"
     
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    Has anyone with safe mode failure problems in Windows 8.1 managed to fix it by means other than formatting? Whenever I try to go into safe mode, I arrive at the desktop with safe mode in all four corners (as expected) and the screen blanking for a few seconds, then repeating. No task bar. This continues forever and keyboard input is ignored until I reset manually. The cursor is present and goes from normal to busy and back repeatedly. This is a relatively new install on an X99 rig.
     
  17. PrMinisterGR

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    In normal mode, run
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    sfc /scannow
    in an Command Prompt as an administrator.

    Sounds like you have borked Windows files.
     
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    Managed to find the cause when rolling back all possible tweaks. The UxStyles (allowing custom visual styles) service wasn't starting in safe mode, so Windows repeatedly failed to load the GUI.
     
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    Thanks for the explain of what happened in Windows 10 Wagnard.
    :):)
     
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    Just an FYI for everyone.

    System Restore is very specific in what it does. Google it and you will see. The only way to be 100% sure you can restore your system to a functioning one is too take a disk image of your boot drive before running DDU. Better yet, schedule disk image backups at regular intervals using your favorite disk imaging software.
     
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