Display Driver Uninstaller Thread

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon Drivers Section' started by Wagnard, Jul 14, 2013.

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  1. SlackerITGuy

    SlackerITGuy Master Guru

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    Excellent.

    Gonna give it a go tonight if 14.9.2 ends up seeing the light of day today.
     
  2. The Mac

    The Mac Ancient Guru

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    DDU stopped installing the standard vga driver a few version ago, and leaves the AMD one.

    is this normal?
     
  3. Wagnard

    Wagnard Ancient Guru

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    I had that problem on a earlier revision when I introduced the new driver store cleanUP but it should be fixed normally.
    Can you give me the log?
    Thanks
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2014
  4. BrianJ_64

    BrianJ_64 Member

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    DDU was being detected as trojan in Kaspersky, sent them the file;

    "Hello,
    Sorry, it was a false detection. It will be fixed in the next update.
    Thank you for your help.
    Best regards,
    Artem Semenchenko| Malware Analyst | Kaspersky Lab"
     

  5. Seren

    Seren Master Guru

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    Can't remember if this happened in the old 12 series but with 13.4.2.1 it uninstalled my monitor driver without asking or check-boxes that I could see, is this normal? It sure is a pain in the ass though.
     
  6. Wagnard

    Wagnard Ancient Guru

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    Yeah its expected.

    But as you say, I could add a checkbox for this as I didn't know it could annoy some users.
     
  7. aaronseet

    aaronseet New Member

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    I have a desktop computer that started with an NVIDIA video card during its Windows Vista days, which progressed along with mainboard switch, Windows 7 upgrade, and ATI Radeon HD card to support three monitors.

    Last night as I upgraded Windows 7 to Windows 8, I noticed the NVIDIA control panel was not properly uninstalled, so I initially downloaded DDU 13.4.0.0 to perform NVIDIA cleanup. That seemed successful enough.

    Next thing was, the present ATI Catalyst Control Center also had problems and wouldn't open to control the video card and monitors. Uninstalling did not seem to remove the Catalyst Control Center menu option in Windows Explorer even though it seems I did revert back to the Microsoft drivers for Radeon HD card.

    Regardless, this time I used DDU 13.4.2.1 to initiate a clean-up for an linger ATI/AMD artefacts left behind. However, it seems to have been stuck for a very long time couple of hours

    Code:
    DDU Version:13.4.2.1
    GPU # 0000 Detected : ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
    GPU DeviceId : pci\ven_1002&dev_68b8
    Vbios : 113-C01301-xxx
    Detected Driver(s) Version(s) : 9.2.0.0
    INF : oem145.inf
    INF Section : ati2mtag_Evergreen
    --------------
    CleanUP started...
    Uninstalling AMD driver
    Executing ddudr Remove , Please wait(can take a few minutes)
    If I look at the text log it seems to have stopped at 12:55pm and it's 3:12pm as I type this

    Code:
    26/10/2014 12:55:08 PM >> DDU Version: 13.4.2.1
    26/10/2014 12:55:08 PM >> OS: Windows 8 or Server 2012
    26/10/2014 12:55:08 PM >> Architecture: x64
    26/10/2014 12:55:08 PM >> GPU #0000 Detected : ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
    26/10/2014 12:55:08 PM >> GPU DeviceId : pci\ven_1002&dev_68b8
    26/10/2014 12:55:08 PM >> Vbios :113-C01301-xxx
    26/10/2014 12:55:08 PM >> Detected Driver(s) Version(s) : 9.2.0.0
    26/10/2014 12:55:08 PM >> INF : oem145.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:08 PM >> INF Section : ati2mtag_Evergreen
    26/10/2014 12:55:08 PM >> --------------
    26/10/2014 12:55:08 PM >> Trying to Create a System Restored Point
    26/10/2014 12:55:08 PM >> System Restored Point Created
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> The following thirs-party driver packages are installed on this computer: 
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem0.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider="Microsoft"
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Printer
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem1.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider="Microsoft"
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Printer
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem10.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=MEDIA
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem100.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=hewlett-packard
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=USB
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem101.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=hewlett-packard
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=IMAGE
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem102.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=hewlett-packard
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=DOT4
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem103.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=hp
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Printer
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem104.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=WPD
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem107.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=westerndigitaltechnologies
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=WDC_SAM
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem108.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=WPD
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem110.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=westerndigitaltechnologies
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=WDC_SAM
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem111.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=WPD
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem113.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=msn
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=USB
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem114.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Display
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem116.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=WPD
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem119.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=WMZUNEUSBSER
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem12.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=MEDIA
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem120.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=intel
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=System
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem121.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=intel
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=System
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem123.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=ATI
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=MEDIA
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem124.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=htc,corporation
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=USB
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem125.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=htc,corporation
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Ports
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem126.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=htccorporation
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Net
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem127.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=realtek
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Net
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem128.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=dellinc.
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Monitor
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem129.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Image
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem130.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Image
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem131.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=MEDIA
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem132.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=realtek
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Net
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem133.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Image
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem134.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=MEDIA
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem135.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider="Microsoft"
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Printer
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem136.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=MEDIA
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem137.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=Microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Keyboard
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem139.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=realtek
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Net
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem14.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=vmware,inc.
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=NetService
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem140.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Mouse
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem141.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=jmicrontechnologycorp.
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=hdc
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem142.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=HIDClass
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem143.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=dellinc.
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Monitor
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem144.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=dellinc.
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Monitor
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem145.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices,inc.
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Display
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem146.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=brother
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Printer
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem147.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=brother
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Printer
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem148.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=USB
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem149.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=HIDClass
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem15.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=MEDIA
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem150.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=HIDClass
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem151.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=HIDClass
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem152.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=HIDClass
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem153.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=Microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Keyboard
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem154.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Mouse
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem155.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=amd
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=System
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem18.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=atk
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=System
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem19.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=USB
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem2.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider="Microsoft"
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Printer
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem20.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=WPD
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem21.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=WMZUNEUSBSER
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem22.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices,inc.
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Display
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem23.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices,inc.
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Display
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem24.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=vmware,inc.
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Net
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem25.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices,inc.
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Display
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem26.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=MEDIA
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem27.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=realtek
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Net
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem28.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=realtek
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Net
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem29.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=wacom
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=HIDClass
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem3.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=vmware,inc.
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=USB
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem30.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=wacomtechnology
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Mouse
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem31.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=wacomtechnology
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Mouse
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem32.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices,inc.
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Display
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem33.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices,inc.
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> Class=Display
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:10 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem34.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=MEDIA
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem35.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=brother
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Image
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem36.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices,inc.
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Display
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem37.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=MEDIA
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem38.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=dellinc.
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Monitor
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem39.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=HIDClass
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem4.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=viewsonic
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Monitor
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem40.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=USB
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem41.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=huaweiincorporated
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Media
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem42.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=atk
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=System
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem43.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=MEDIA
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem44.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=MEDIA
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem45.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=USBDevice
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem46.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=jmicrontechnologycorp.
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=SCSIAdapter
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem47.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=jmicrontechnologycorp.
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=SCSIAdapter
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem48.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=intel
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=hdc
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem49.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=HIDClass
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem5.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=realtek
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Net
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem50.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=intel
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=System
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem53.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=philipselectronics
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Monitor
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem56.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=atk
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=System
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem57.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=brother
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Printer
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem58.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=HIDClass
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem59.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=Microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Keyboard
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem6.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider="Microsoft"
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Printer
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem61.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=System
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem62.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=microsoft.
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=HDC
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem63.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=HIDClass
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem64.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Image
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem65.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=razer
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=HIDClass
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem66.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=motorola
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=USB
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem68.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=msn
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=USB
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem7.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider="Acronis"
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=AcronisDevices
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem71.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=realtek
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Net
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem72.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=nokia
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class="WirelessCommunicationDevices"
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem73.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=nokia
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class="WirelessCommunicationDevices"
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem74.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=nokia
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Modem
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem75.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=MEDIA
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem76.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=nokia
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Ports
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem78.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=HIDClass
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem79.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=HIDClass
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem8.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Bluetooth
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem80.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=dtsoftltd
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=System
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem81.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices,inc.
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Display
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem82.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=viewsonic
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Monitor
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem85.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=nokia
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class="WirelessCommunicationDevices"
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem86.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Image
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem87.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=nokia
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class="WirelessCommunicationDevices"
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem88.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=nokia
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Modem
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem89.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=nokia
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Ports
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem9.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices,inc.
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Display
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem90.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=advancedmicrodevices,inc.
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Display
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem91.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=zenographicsinc
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Printer
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem92.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=hp
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Printer
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem93.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=hewlett-packard
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=USB
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem96.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=Bluetooth
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> ---
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> C:\WINDOWS\Inf\oem97.inf
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Provider=microsoft
    26/10/2014 12:55:11 PM >> Class=MEDIA
    26/10/2014 12:55:17 PM >> Uninstalling AMD driver ...
    26/10/2014 12:55:17 PM >> Trying to remove the AMD HD Audio BUS
    26/10/2014 12:55:17 PM >> Found an AMD audio controller bus !
    26/10/2014 12:55:17 PM >> array result: amdkmafd
    
    Any advice how to proceed?
     
  8. Wagnard

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    It is clearly not normal to take this long.
    Are you cleaning in safemode?
    Do you see any cpu usage from Ddu?

    At this point you don't really have choice but to kill the display driver uninstaller process.
    I'll check the code around the region it jammed to see if I see something evident.

    If you can try again after you kill it just to be sure it isn't just a bad luck.
    No need to let it run for hours it takes a few seconds normally.
     
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    nm, it seems it was unable to detect my card, and defaulted to Nvidia, which obviously didnt get rid of the AMD stuff.

    Ran it again and it was fine.

    here is part of the bogus one:

    Code:
    10/24/2014 7:41:51 PM >> DDU Version: 13.4.2.1
    10/24/2014 7:41:51 PM >> OS: Windows 7 or Server 2008r2
    10/24/2014 7:41:51 PM >> Architecture: x64
    10/24/2014 7:41:51 PM >> Conversion from type 'Byte()' to type 'String' is not valid.   at Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToString(Object Value)
       at WindowsApplication1.Form1.Form1_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e) in C:\Users\Wagnard\OneDrive\Documents\Programmation\display-drivers-uninstaller\display-drivers-uninstaller\WindowsApplication1\Form1.vb:line 4655
    10/24/2014 7:41:51 PM >> The following thirs-party driver packages are installed on this computer: 
    .
    .
    .
    10/24/2014 7:42:00 PM >> Uninstalling NVIDIA driver ...
    10/24/2014 7:42:00 PM >> DDUDR Remove Display Driver: Complete.
    10/24/2014 7:42:00 PM >> Executing Driver Store cleanUP(Find OEM)...
    10/24/2014 7:42:00 PM >> dp_delete "oem1.inf"
    10/24/2014 7:42:00 PM >> Driver package 'oem1.inf' deleted.
    
    10/24/2014 7:42:00 PM >> dp_delete "oem2.inf"
    10/24/2014 7:42:01 PM >> Driver package 'oem2.inf' deleted.
    
    10/24/2014 7:42:01 PM >> Driver Store CleanUP Complete.
    10/24/2014 7:42:01 PM >> Executing DDUDR Remove Audio controler.
    10/24/2014 7:42:01 PM >> DDUDR Remove Audio controler Complete.
    10/24/2014 7:42:01 PM >> Executing Driver Store cleanUP(Find OEM)...
    10/24/2014 7:42:01 PM >> Driver Store CleanUP Complete.
    10/24/2014 7:42:01 PM >> Removing nVidia Audio Endpoints
    10/24/2014 7:42:01 PM >> ddudr Remove Audio/HDMI Complete
    10/24/2014 7:42:01 PM >> ddudr Remove Monitor started
    10/24/2014 7:42:01 PM >> DISPLAY\BNQ78C3\5&ABA5A5B&6&12345678&01&00                  : Removed
    1 device(s) were removed.
    
    10/24/2014 7:42:01 PM >> DISPLAY\BNQ78C3\5&ABA5A5B&6&UID260                          : Removed
    1 device(s) were removed.
    
    10/24/2014 7:42:01 PM >> Cleaning Process/Services...
    10/24/2014 7:42:02 PM >> Process/Services CleanUP Complete
    10/24/2014 7:42:02 PM >> Control/Video CleanUP
    10/24/2014 7:42:02 PM >> Starting reg cleanUP... May take a minute or two.
    10/24/2014 7:42:02 PM >> Starting dcom/clsid/appid/typelib cleanup
    10/24/2014 7:42:02 PM >> Begin classroot CleanUP
    10/24/2014 7:42:02 PM >> End classroot CleanUP
    10/24/2014 7:42:02 PM >> Begin clsidleftover CleanUP
    10/24/2014 7:42:02 PM >> End clsidleftover CleanUP
    10/24/2014 7:42:02 PM >> Start Interface CleanUP
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> END Interface CleanUP
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> Finished dcom/clsid/appid/typelib/interface cleanup
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> Pnplockdownfiles region cleanUP
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> Cannot delete a subkey tree because the subkey does not exist.pnp resources khronos
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> Cannot delete a subkey tree because the subkey does not exist.pnp resources khronos
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> Cannot delete a subkey tree because the subkey does not exist.pnp resources cpl extension
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> Cannot delete a subkey tree because the subkey does not exist.pnpresources wow6432node khronos
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> Cannot delete a subkey tree because the subkey does not exist.pnp ressources nvidia corporation
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> Firewall entry cleanUP
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> Power Settings Cleanup
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> System environement CleanUP
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> SharedDlls CleanUP
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> ngenservice Clean
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> Remove eventviewer stuff
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> No value exists with that name. Nvtmru
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> No value exists with that name. ShadowPlay
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> No value exists with that name. StereoLinksInstall
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> -Starting S-1-5-xx region cleanUP
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> -End of S-1-5-xx region cleanUP
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> End of Registry Cleaning
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> Killing Explorer.exe
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> Cleaning UpdatusUser users ac if present
    10/24/2014 7:42:03 PM >> Cleaning Directory
    10/24/2014 7:42:04 PM >> MuiCache CleanUP
    10/24/2014 7:42:04 PM >> Starting the removal of nVidia Optimus UpperFilter if present.
    10/24/2014 7:42:04 PM >> Executing Driver Store cleanUP(Find OEM)...
    10/24/2014 7:42:04 PM >> Driver Store CleanUP Complete.
    10/24/2014 7:42:04 PM >> Restarting Computer 
    
     
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    Thanks I think I know why. AMD tend to not be really standard on some things...
    When I fix it, ill PM you a version just to see if it at least detect the card correctly this time.
    Thanks for the report and time !

    Edit:

    -(update 13.4.2.2) - Fixed a problem with some AMD card detection with some drivers. ( I hope...)
     
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    Thanks.
     
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    Display Driver Uninstaller 13.5.0.0 (10-30-2014)

    Changelog:
    -Cleaned up the interface by placing the options tick-box in they own options window.
    -Fixes possible DDU deadlock (Hang)
    -Removed 1 remaining hardcoded paths ("c:\"). Fixes some issue when "c:" is not the system drive.
    -Clean some AMD orphan regkeys.
    -Changed the code responsible for the auto-selection of the GPU.
    -Present and non-present monitor removal is now optional.
    -Minor AMD additional file cleanUP

    Download
     
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    How about fixing the restore point to not fire off until you hit the clean button and/or when you hit the boot to safe mode button.

    its annoying to make another restore point after ive installed the new drivers and need to reset windows update.

    same with the boot to safe mode, move the dialog box to when you hit clean, that way it doesnt impede getting into the program.
     
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    -Sure I could make the restore point when we click the Clean button.

    -What do you mean also by reset windows update? Setting the windows updates option (that I changed to prevent Win update to download/ install drivers) back to default after a cleanUP? if so, the button number 4 does that.

    -For booting into safemode when we click the clean button, ill think/ test. It think it could be a good idea.
     
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    i mean, after ive cleaned, and installed my new drivers, i want to reset windows update back to normal.

    In order to do that currently, i have to open the program, wait for the additional restore point, then say no i dont want to boot to safe mode before a can get at the main screen to hit the button.

    if they were moved as suggested, i wouldnt have to do all that just to hit the reset update button.
     

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    I'm not sure to fully understand that part of the changelog, Wagnard. Could you or anyone else ellaborate about it a bit more?
    Thanks :)
     
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    It means you can optionally clean old monitor drivers that you no longer have (or current ones) out of the registry/device Manager.


    If you go to device manager and select show hidden devices, you can see if you have any.
     
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    Ah thanks, its more clear for me now. Currently working on what you asked.
    Btw, the option (for windows update) is also available in windows under system/hardware/device installation settings. http://support2.microsoft.com/kb/2500967
     
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    i know, but its easier just ot fire the program back up most of the time.
     
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    Thanks, The Mac :)
     
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