DirectX 10 AGP card?

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by DigitalKilla_FL, May 16, 2006.

  1. DigitalKilla_FL

    DigitalKilla_FL Master Guru

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    Hi guys,
    Do you think we will ever see a DX10 AGP graphics card? I was thinking about future upgrade path. If not, I its better to just go PCIe for chepaer probably.
     
  2. clkProject

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    It's time to give up AGP.

    I'd say that there is a possibility that there could be a DX10 AGP card, but don't get your hopes up.
     
  3. NobleKnight51

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    Slim to none.

    The new DX10 cards by NVIDIA are supposed to have a dual core (not dual chip like you see now) design and to really make that second core useful a PCI-E lane is almost a must.

    I could be wrong though. Just wait and see how the manufacturers play their cards.
     
  4. roguesn1per

    roguesn1per Ancient Guru

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    umm the geforces already have "dual cores" or "quads"

    plus agp wont be dead for a while, it still has a heap of potential

    look at the 7800gs+ beats most pcie cards!!!
     

  5. VAs0ulja

    VAs0ulja Master Guru

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    hes right
     
  6. Epipsychidion

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    Here's hoping that there will be a dx10 AGP - although I'd dooubt that it will be a nVidia release, more likely than not to be via an add in board partner, just like the Gainward bliss 7800 series.
     
  7. Chillin

    Chillin Ancient Guru

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    It will most likely be a low level release such a a 8200 or 8300 rather than any real gaming card.
     
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    If they do realease an 8200 or 8300 agp figure that would be a nice upgrade from a 6600 or 6800 if pcie is out of reach.
     
  9. Azjo

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    There will be a long time before we even will see DX 10 games and by then its best to upgrade mobo/cpu anyway and then you obviously will have to go to pcie anyway.
     
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    I'm sure agp will be around for a while, wouldnt they loose money if they stop making agp cards? Also nothing uses the full power of agp yet, so thats why I think it will still be here for a while....
     

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    I think there will be a DX10 card available at the launch of Vista. There are a few titles (Crysis is one) that are using DX10 that will realease around the same time as Vista. Microsoft is hoping that DX10 will push users to upgrade to Vista, so they will be sure to have a few games available. I belive we will see info on DX10 cards in the near future (PCIe), how the first Gen of them perform is another subject all together.
     
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  12. UnclePappi

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    Halo2 is vista only...but you probably know that already.
     
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    do current games even use the full 8x bandwidth of the agp yet?
     
  14. martin2006

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    halo 2 isnt dx10 tho, i can assure you of that.. unless it has a MAJOR overherhaul
     
  15. bernek

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    when 7800 series appeared they say agp is over ... but still gainward bliss plus is a really nice card ...

    so I think the last mohican is still not on the market yet ...

    maybe dx10 will be the end of agp or maybe not

    agp still has enough juice in in (bandwidth) pcie is not used at 100% potential ...

    maybe we will see dx10 agp cards or maybe we won't :D
     

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    Im guessing we will be able to play our XP games on Vista right?
     
  17. NobleKnight51

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    You do not understand.

    The cards you see NOW have a dual CHIP. Two chips on the card that share the lane. I'm talking about a dual CORE chip. This will allow QuadSLI to be capable with a single card. Read this if you still dont understand:

    http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=3177

    Also, the only reason why some 7800GS+ chips are beating the PCI-E cards are due to CPU bottlenecks. CPU isnt able to send enough data to the GPU in PCI-E and once CPU's become fast enough you will notice a huge hit in the AGP vs PCI-E interfaces.
     
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  18. DigitalKilla_FL

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    Well guys, its obvious that you cannot trust or beleive that article in the link posted by NobleKinght51, as they said that the G71 will have 32 pipes, and in reality it only has 24. Very misleading. THe only way to really find out the truth is to take a wait and see approach.
     
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    Its fact AGP8x aint fully used yet nor is PCI-E 8x thats why 2 cards in SLI on most mobos run 8x unless newer Asus etc with 2x16X, so basically going PCI-E is needed some time in future but they did it to get back on a parallel connection so they could revive the old 3DFX vodoo tech of 2xGPU's linked together AKA SLI (Nvidia bought then remember). :), then you buy 2x GPU's.
     
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  20. bliss007

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    Digitalkiller, Depends how you count them, Nvidia count it normal way and ATI got their own way, both manus's Top end cards have really only 24pipes, some peep on another forum posted the calc to show how its worked out and end result, I will try my best to find the post though but dont expect it soon.
     

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