Did EVGA just Steal the Rivatuner RTSS design concept into PrecisionX 15 ?

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  1. Mumak

    Mumak Member Guru

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    So the SHM won't work, right?
    Gooooood :) At least something...
     
  2. mtbiker033

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    The amount of nonsense posted on various forums about this is incredible.

    :puke2:

    Thanks to Unwinder for your work! I appreciate your passion and am a very thankful user of Afterburner!
     
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  3. cowie

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    Yes it reminds me of the second resident evil when no one believed the nuke was from umbrella corp....it was just a nuke plant accident.

    anyways be well be safe god bless
     
  4. Hootmon

    Hootmon Maha Guru

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    Agreed. Keep your head down, Alex.
     
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    EVGA has always been a cheap, shady company. Cheap, paper-thin "turbine" coolers on their cards. Cards that clearly aren't tested in extreme circumstances. More defects (and returns) than any company in the industry. Now this.

    I never got the praise. All you need to do is hold a Gigabyte, MSI, or virtually any other card in one hand, and the EVGA in the other. The difference in build quality is undeniable.

    EVGA: Cheap, crap. Products and company. Always have been and forever will be.
     
  6. southamptonfc

    southamptonfc Ancient Guru

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    MSI of course!
     
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    Need to know more "facts" before I make any decision. As long as Evga did not copy/use any of UnWinder's code (and UnWinder admitted they did not have access) it's most likely permissible and legal.

    I don't think "looks" will hold much value here since there are only so many ways you can display "line graphs", kinda similar to concept that there are only so many ways for different manufacturers of automobile dashboards to display speedometers, temperature gauges, readouts, etc..., or for that matter for cars to have 4 tires. They all seem similar to me ...

    Aside from not seeing any contractual agreements from either party, I hope you are able to come to resolution to this issue.
     
  8. hallryu

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    Wow! You spend a couple of months away concentrating on the family stuff and EVGA pull this nonsense!

    A good reason to avoid them from now on me thinks.
     
  9. GPU

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    http://www.overclock.net/t/1502290/guru3d-did-evga-just-steal-the-rivatuner-rtss-design-concept/310
    There is one instance in there of the term RivaTuner:
    you might want to read that
    sort of backs up what alex said , the name RIVATUNER is in the new evga PX software files.
     
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    Well, at least somebody updated the damn thing...

    Looking forward to the new release!
     
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  11. icedman

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    i always found precision to be ugly and didnt like the layout much the only thing ive used it for is for the pixel clcok control which i cant seem to find in AB maybe its just in a different place but i cant find it.
     
  12. gringopig

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    I for one will always buy EVGA - for their support and for the quality of their products. EVGA were quick to release updated BIOSs for my GTX570 SC cards to solve TDR issues and modded one especially for me to maintain my voltages and run custom fan speeds.

    Whatever the arguments around this sorry tale, I feel it is not my concern but purely the private concern of the parties involved.

    However - should Unwinder release this new version of Afterburner with the ability to make it look like Precision, I will be extremely happy indeed as I didn't care for the aesthetics of Afterburner.

    The functionality of Afterburner however is second to none as I found out after I switched to use the 64 bit OSD function.

    So maybe the outcome will be a happy blessing for us all.

    Maybe 'happy' isn't the right word though. Forward into the future ---->>>
     
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  13. Unwinder

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    Ugh. Sadly I'm forced to comment one more nonsense related to this strory spread by some blind EVGA fanboy here. I realize that it is complete nonsense, but I'm still forced to give quick and easily verifiable facts because that teenage "genius" keep spreading it across different forums including EGVA support:

    "Unwinder is a lying sack of ****. None of his work is being used by EVGA. If you want to believe his bull****, go spread your love where other people are dumb enough to buy into his crap. I actually installed Precision X version 4.21 with OUT installing RivaTuner. Being able to skip the RivaTuner install is a feature that both EVGA and MSI have been offering for a while, ever since Unwinder started pushing standalone version of RivaTuner again. He never once complained about Precision X version 4.21 using the settings UI without RivaTuner being installed, that's because, again, IT DOESN'T ****ING BELONG TO HIM.

    He is saying that because EVGA came up with their own in game overlay, that it must some how be a stolen version of his work. But that's complete bull****. Unwinder is not the inventor of in game overlays, dozens of different versions exists, made by dozens of different companies. He can't claim that EVGA making their own overlay some how equals EVGA stealing his work."


    Even if you install EPX 4.2.1 without RTSS, you can easily find RTxxx.DLL libraries inside the EVGA Precision folder, which include:

    RTCore.dll - RivaTuner core library
    RTFC.dll - RivaTuner foundation classes library
    RTHAL.dll - RivaTuner Hardware Abstraction library
    RTMUI.dll - RivaTuner Multilanguage User Interface library
    RTUI.dll - RivaTuner User Interface library

    You may open each of them and check copyright info. You may open even main EVGAPrecisionX.exe and check who owns copyrights.
     
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    I linked your answer on the LTT forum.
     
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    Thanks, was too lazy to register, tried to respond to his statement in EVGA forum but it seem to be ignored. So I posted here.
     

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    I doubt it'll do any good as it sounds like that ass has pretty much made up his mind EVGA did nothing wrong and Unwinder is evil. Never mind the fact the exe and included DLL's clearly contain technologies that were created and copyrighted by Unwinder.
     
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    Kid just doesn't seem to realize that AB and Precision are a modified Rivatuner, he thinks the main program used to be made by EVGA ;)
    Also doesn't hurt to know the difference between Rivatuner and Rivatuner Statistics Server.

    Unless i'm totally misinformed here :banana:
     
  18. mameira

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    Well, first I'd like to say thanks to Unwinder for rivatunner, I learned a lot thanks to it and introduced me into GPU OC.

    And, I love eVGA cards, but I'll give MSI cards a try now ( those lightning series seem to be pretty good tbh )
     
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    Re: Did EVGA just Steal the Rivatuner RTSS design concept into PrecisionX 15 ? 3 hours ago (permalink)

    wanako
    So essntially, this is all clickbait by Guru3D, and we're all eating it up. Nothing to see here, move along.


    I agree. My hate has got much straonger now. Don't really like that Hillbert.

    Still, I wont stop using EVGA products. I dont 'really' use any softwares like Precision, even tough I have it. Precision X version 4.0.0 and OC scanner 2.2.3.

    I hardly use them. Don't care.

    Happy with my GPU. This idiotic issue wont repel me from EVGA.

    To Unwinder, good job!. You know you are not in America but you want to work with American entities. What happened to you is fair enough, if it happened. I like how you moan about not being in US and that you cant take any action. Enjoy the pain.

    Go code with your tears. HAH!.

    wtf is wrong with people today ??
    http://forums.evga.com/Did-EVGA-jus...n-concept-into-PrecisionX-15-m2191513-p4.aspx
     
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  20. Spets

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    Posts like that are made by morons just ignore them. We all know it's Unwinders work, Precision will always be playing catch up.

    Looking forward to more Afterburner updates :D
     
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