Depression, can't sleep.

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  1. signex

    signex Ancient Guru

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    Just once a day before i go to bed, but i'm starting to feel different i think the citalopram is starting to work.
    I feel light and more sharp, i feel much better as well.

    Left side on my head feels weird though, like a light burn/cold feeling but nothing major.
     
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    then it should be easy to stop, in fact its probably working because it relaxes u but it most likely not inducing sleep anymore, are you taking 15 mg or 30 ?
     
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    signex Ancient Guru

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    10mg
     
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    signex Ancient Guru

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    Problem is, i don't have a drivers license, and the gym is 9km away and i don't really dare to ride a bike within that range.
    Theres also a stupid bridge that i have to cross, wich caused me burnouts a couple of times.
     

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    10 mg you could stop it now, its not inducing sleep at this dose especially if you ve been taking it for 5 months
     
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    Ah I see, 9k is like nothing on a bike. You can also research and do some home body weight exercises. DON'T GIVE ME ANY MORE DANDY EXCUSES! DROP NOW GIVE ME 20!
     
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    signex Ancient Guru

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    I'm in real bad shape, for me it's very heavy to do.

    Already made an appointment for a diet expert and soon i will get an invitation for a heart specialist to do some tests.
     
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    This guy still in trouble? Man, noone can give you better advice than you on your own. Even if you conclude something on your own its always 10 times better than the same thing other person adviced..
    Gl finding out what you really want on your own. And.. shouldnt read into people suggestions, because if everyone suggest you something great - it will still not move you to do it or have it or act it. And you wont come to that same "great thing" on your own, because someone already suggested it.
     
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    Not really in trouble, i'm not depressed anymore, i'm just having sleep problems.

    I wake up early with a hellish burning feeling on my chest wich results in a racing heart.
    But it points all to side effects of citalopram, as it happened shortly after my dosage was changed to 20mg.

    Trust me, it's literally a nightmare of a feeling to have, i think they call it a heartburn in English.

    During the day i'm completely fine and i don't think about these events or get anxious.
     
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    1 Im unsure but.. if you have a habit of listening to music untill fall asleep then.. its real bad habit. If its about the dreams that make your heart race, then you need to take care of body and mind(no music listening until fall asleep)..

    2 Also use curtains if you dont. Big massive curtains. Makes big difference in sleep quality for many people me included.
    Well you can try one trick, more like mid-term experiment. People say if its easier to wake up each 3hours or so? (go read and learn that on your own)

    3. but.. you can try experiment with alarm clock.. and try waking up after sleeping for 3hours.. 6hours.. and go try sleep at day for 3hours and wake up with alarm clock - just to see if you always have that problem or ONLY after nights sleep.

    I can sleep at day for 3hours and then I almost dont want to sleep whole night AND next day until late evening. So sleep at day is big difference for me - but i dont use that habit.

    I had some issues on that matter(sleep stuff) so i hope you try something.
     

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    signex Ancient Guru

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    Even worse, i sleep on the couch watching TV so i can fall asleep fast.
    Couple of weeks ago i slept in my own bed again for 3 days but then it went bad again cause doc said to use half of metroprolol and i woke up again with a insane racing heart + panic attack.
    Most likely i need to use them my whole life or until i'm in better shape again.

    What do you think about vitamine pills with calcium, zink and magnesium in them?
    I heard it will make you sleep better and deeply and makes you well rested when you wake up. One i found is called ZMA, includes 90 pills for just 9,99.

    Next Tuesday i'm going to the hospital to get my heart checked by a heart specialist.
     
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    I can say, from suffering from depression myself, that what you are doing is just delaying things to avoid change or confrontation.

    You don't need an appointment for a diet. You just go on one. 1,200 calories a day with 2 miles of walking, 3 if you can. You'll get into shape in 3 months. I lost 70 pounds this way. I went from 260 to 190. I'm 6'1. At times it did help with my depression. Now, I seem to have grown accustom to it, like anything really, if you don't push your limit, you get complacent.

    Stop dilly dallying, simply put on some clothes and start walking. Get out of the house, get some fresh air and new views to take in and burn calories doing it.

    If you still want to see someone about a diet, that's fine. But don't wait for that. Start now. Why wait?
     
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    Maybe you listened too much hard rock and watched too many horror violent movies.. how else did that started? I mean it had to start from somewhere..
    tv while asleep? Yeah thats a it too much imo. Im not a doc so I guess i cant help. Maybe it is too late for changing your habits but logicaly not many things can affect you so bad. Health issues? Well, you said you went to gym, so what you maybe now in good shape? If you still a lot overweight and overtrain - thats bad for heart.

    I guess you eat late in evenings before sleep too? That doesnt help for good rest too.
    You can try one of those.. cold shower thingies.. starting from warm water showers for a week, the next week try with more cold and more cold water. Use water termometer and go bit by bit. 2min shower each day for a week, then reduce water temp a couple of grades. Easy :)
     
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    No i only watch comedy like family guy and south park, married with children and how i met your mother on comedy central makes me relax and fast asleep. I set my TV always to auto off at 30min.

    No i meant i'm going to start going to the gym soon but with my issues i can't do it just yet.
    I already went to the heart specialist, they took some blood samples and next month they want me to do a performance test how my heart reacts when my body is under pressure.

    And no i quit eating in the evening, but i still don't sleep for 8 full hours.
    I keep waking up after an hour or so and then i fall asleep again for couple more hours so i get around 6 hours sleep atm.

    Just now i went for a walk and my heart started acting scary again i got cold in my whole body.
    I turned around quick and went slowly home. This really irritates me, i hope the doctors find an explanation asap.... :bang:
     
  15. SerotoNiN

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    You have legit heart issues or are these panic attacks?
     

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    They don't know yet, haven't heard back from the hospital.
    If theres something i'll get an invitation to come back, if not i get the results of my blood test.

    This cold feeling paired with racing heart i've never experienced before, it happened few days after my citalopram dosage changed from 10mg>20mg.
     
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    simptoms you describe resembles a serotonin syndrome,(simplyfing, too much serotonin in your brain) the fact that you are taking an SSRI medication (they block the reuptake of serotonin, leaving more available in the synaptic cleft) , only reinforces my theory. Reducing dosage of citalopram, or change medication altogheter imho should be the first line of action if symptoms keep happening, but it should be done as soon as possibile, serotonin syndrome at mild levels is very umplesant, but it could potentialy be deadly if for example in the same day you happen to inadvertently take another compund that interacts with serotonin on top of the SSRI, it is a condition that should not be taken lightly. Serotonin isn't the only neurotransmitter involed in depression, other cathecolamines (dopamine, norepinephrine), as well as cholinergic receptors play a major role too, maybe in your case serotoninergic system is not the problem in the first place, talk with your physician about the possibility of changing the medication. In the meantime be sure to have a Benzodiazepine (better if long lasting action like Delorazepam) at hand, in case panic attacks strikes again. As for the sleep, i advice you try melatonin, it's not a medication, it's a supplement of an hormone naturaly produced by the pineal gland in our brain, it is the natural "signal" that the brain sends to us that it is time to go to sleep. It works for many people without any apreciable side effect, and for people like us thant spend a lot of time in front of a screen, it is a godsend because it counteracts the effect of blue light (that our brain interprets as day light), on the capacity of taking sleep. I Wish you the best, Keep it up.
     
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    I looked it up, and only 2 of tho's symptoms i have but all the others i don't. Like tremor and racing heart.

    But i will definitely bring this up with my doctor and yes i still have oxazepam on hand wich is what you mean by a benzo i assume?
     
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    Signex, was it the kind of thing that started as a depression, then later came the panic/anxiety stuff? That's how it went down for me anyway. It's the kind of thing, a lot of people have no idea what it's like.

    Just keep up seeing the doc, try to find what works for you. Really hope you get better asap, just hang in there sir.
     
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    No it started with racing heart in the night when i'm sleeping, that got me depressed.

    And now i have this cold feeling through my body randomly during a walk or after waking up along with a racing heart.
    Wich is why i went to a heart specialist, so i hope i get the results back from my blood sample asap.

    But i haven't been depressed last 2 weeks, i'm happier then before. :)
    Only have the issue above and trouble sleeping.
    Citalopram is really starting to take effect, i'm not going to use 30 or 40mg, 20 seems fine for now.
     
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