Delid your CPU with the Delid Die Mate

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  1. Ryu5uzaku

    Ryu5uzaku Ancient Guru

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    Getting to 4.7ghz and temps @ max 75 when stressed is not that bad for Ivy :p tho if it stayed around 50 it would be awesome.
     
  2. NoobCase

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    intels is alright but not the best and there have been reports of the ihs not making enough contact due to the rubbery clue used.

    most recommend using coolaboratory ultra or pro or Kryonaut from thermal grizzly.

    And yes intels will dry out at some point, like most others. but where talking like 6+ years iirc
     
  3. Awesome.

    Probably will do some group by with close tech friends :nerd:
     
  4. CalculuS

    CalculuS Ancient Guru

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    This must be quite the device for reviewers.
     

  5. anub1s18

    anub1s18 Member Guru

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    like already mentioned your supposed to put back the IHS, but you can also go for a direct mounting option if your using watercooling... or i suppose if an air cooler supports that but i've not heard of that being a thing.

    it is surprisingly easy to damage the socket when going for directly mounting the cooling to the cpu :p

    i tried once and failed twice, i accidentally bumped the socket with the socket cover disabling dualchannel memory. and i couldn't even cut the IHS of the cpu (intel did a great job on this one, the gap between the IHC and the PCB is to narrow for the edge of a razer to even find it's way in... on all 4 side's, cpu did survive unscaved) wish i had this gizmo though 80 bucks is a bit steep.

    for me it just doesn't make sence that my 250w 980TI never gets above 55 degree's in stress tests yet my 95w cpu will wonder off in to 70+ ez through benchmarks, 60+ is normal for demanding games...frickin cheapo tim
     
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  6. fry178

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    meeeh. doing 35C (50C for package) with stock settings under load with a 3770k. have yet to see the need for ocing...
     
  7. Reddoguk

    Reddoguk Ancient Guru

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    I don't like it. I have a feeling this would actually be more risky than doing it manually.

    When you do it with a blade you slowly loosen the lid and this help remove the suction as you wobble and wiggle it about.

    Forcing it straight off with brute force like this to me will harm more chips than my method of heat gun and slowly lifting the lid. Specially if the chip is cold and the paste is like strong glue.

    It's a good idea but i wouldn't use it personally. I'd rather do it by hand as you then get a lot more feeling from fingertips than some cold machine doing it.
     
  8. __hollywood|meo

    __hollywood|meo Ancient Guru

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    fantastic idea, i like it

    then you use a hairdryer/heatgun. its just a little vice with a socket, its not more or less dangerous...just less tedious

    lol "no need". direct die contact is always the best, heatspreaders shouldnt even exist

    theres no need to overclock, just buy a faster chip. theres no need to watercool, just buy a bigger fan
     
  9. Reddoguk

    Reddoguk Ancient Guru

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    I just watched the video again and noticed that this device doesn't actually lift the lid off.

    By the look of it instead of lifting it off it's pushing it off horizontally while it's cold.

    With an expensive CPU i think i would still rather do it by hand. The amount of force he uses surely puts the fiberglass under a lot of strain and i bet these CPU's have 10+ layers of fiber with incredibly tiny thin copper or gold traces that are thinner than a human hair.

    I would definitely advise people to heat the lid with a heat gun/hair dryer first before even trying this as i believe this method puts huge strain on the CPU and although this may not break it i personally would still be more cautious.
     
  10. rflair

    rflair Don Commisso Staff Member

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    Actually this device and the vise method are safer then using a razor blade.

    If it were $20 I'd get one, $80 NO. I have a good vise in the garage.
     

  11. The Reeferman

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    "Of course there's need to OC, and of course there's no need to watercool for gaming alone.

    right now for gaming applications the termals are more than fine, why bother and take a risk?"

    You could also look at it from a noise perspective. Passive air or water is less noise.
     
  12. Mod Enerjen

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    Attempting to remove the cover of the processor, as opposed to lapping, is idiocy in the most base form. :banana:
     
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  13. CrazY_Milojko

    CrazY_Milojko Ancient Guru

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    ^^^^ This, you took those words out from my mouth :) Preheat lid and then try to remove it, a bit safer and easier too. It would be perfect to heat the lid with heat gun or hair dryer around 100 Celsius through entire process while removing it with Delide Die Mate.
     
  14. TheDeeGee

    TheDeeGee Ancient Guru

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    People are just way too worried about temps these days. Running 4,5 GHz at 60-65C during Gaming is perfectly healthy, and has been for many many years.

    And what you said, you will reach the vcore limit way before hitting max temp.
     
  15. __hollywood|meo

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    am i on tomshardware or something? are people literally saying you dont need to OC, dont bother watercooling, etc? even ignoring that, lower temps = less energy wasted as heat, less power draw

    is this the twilight zone? or wait am i being punkd? ashton kutcher is gonna jump out any second isnt he

    anyway on topic im not buying one, ill stick with the razor blade...but its still a neat product
     

  16. Matt26LFC

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    Think some people are also not realizing that extreme overclockers delid aswell! Some Overclockers will have 5-10 CPUs delid, and this method is safer than Razor blade.

    Even under LN2 you can see positive temps in benches like XTU, and when your pushing that sort of voltage through a chip you don't want to be seeing positive temps.

    Just because some don't understand the engineering and forces at work here doesn't mean it isn't safe.

    I've delid two chips using the Razor blade method and both times I've chipped the DIE, one survived the other didn't and I was certainly being careful, it was as I pushed through the last of the glue and just slid in too far and bam caught a corner.

    This is def worth some cash if your going to be delidding multiple CPUs especially when those chips are £360 each!
     
  17. icedman

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    Not worth the money if u have a vice at home. WI the vice method I was even able to delid soldered cpu's used my old q6600 and a p4 as practice and both worked flawlessly before I did my 3770k.
     
  18. nizzen

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    Bad?
    3770k is legendary!

    I benched on water 5.2Ghz ;)
     
  19. Ven0m

    Ven0m Ancient Guru

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    Well...
    My 920 was able to achieve better speeds at lower temps for sure. With greater temp, there's much greater power waste on transistors.
    You mentioned P=U*I, which is true. But at given voltage, amperage can increase in the very same piece of silicon if temperature increase results in more leakage.

    Some chips react better to temperature decrease, some not that great.

    If I was going for custom water loop, I'd consider delidding for sure.
     
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  20. nexxusting

    nexxusting Banned

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    So would my 4770k.

    Clicked on two posts this morning, this one & the SSD Cache thread. You posted misinformation in both.... Your opinion isint fact. I'd take a break today sir.

    I don't think I've met a deaf gamer before. Cool!


    If you don't mind me asking.... Is it harder playing games? Hmm I guess that's all you'd know so that might be hard to answer.
     
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