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Debian comes to Windows 10, should we worry Microsoft will embrace, extend, and extinguish Linux

Discussion in 'Operating Systems' started by anticupidon, Mar 7, 2018.

  1. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    Nothing will happen, it is only a convenience for developers. The only thing I worry about it is how unreliable I've found recent releases of win10 to be (aka RS2 and newer).
     
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    vbetts Don Vincenzo Staff Member

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    This might move some people who use debian as a build environment. It's pretty cool at least.
     
  4. sykozis

    sykozis Ancient Guru

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    I wouldn't worry. It only gives command line access. When MS lets me access the GUI, I'll care.... Until then, if I need Linux, I'll boot a live distro.
     

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    I'll just leave this here, and you can use a bit of gray matter to draw your own conclusions:

     
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  6. sykozis

    sykozis Ancient Guru

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    Linus will never allow Microsoft to control Linux....
     
  7. KissSh0t

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    All I can think about is Star Trek's Borg for some reason.
     
  8. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    I was about to post the aforementioned video rant of Brian's, some other guru did it.
    I was saddened by the perspective of the situation, it can harm a lot.
     
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    I agree though the money speaks louder. ;):D
     
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    I look at it this way:

    There's amazing open source projects out there that make our computing so much better. Gnome, KDE, all the other desktops, browsers, media players, etc, etc, etc. So much excellent open source software.

    What open source projects from Microsoft are we using? As Ash put it: "Jack and sh*t; and Jack left town."

    However, meanwhile, Microsoft is headlining one of the biggest Linux conferences in the world. What, they're gonna open source Windows? MS Office? Internet Explorer? Edge?

    Is this a joke? I think Bryan's rants are actually spot on.
     

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    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    Well put and well said.I started following Lunduke's show since last year, and he keeps on delivering real stuff for our interest.
     
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    Linux falls under GNU GPL. If Microsoft wants to attempt to take over Linux, they could easily develop their own OS based on the Linux kernel and distribute it.
     
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    @ sykozis yep them have a huge infrastructure so is very easy develop some "free" OS embedded with buy this or those as I said $ is $ ;)
     
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    Some thought.
    For the average Joe, it matters little nowadays what OS you are using, following the always online and web-based software trend. The only difference that makes is gaming, corporate and specialized software for specific purposes.
    But IF average Joe figures out that he needs only to download a free OS, tweaking it as he sees fit, have access to free open source software and has an overall better foundation regarding security and privacy, Microsoft just doesn't look just as appealing as before.
    Microsoft is fighting the future with hasty present actions, just to further blind and deceive, so to hold their cash flowing and suffocating the Linux foundation by infiltrating inside as wolves in sheepskins.

    Yes, for developers and for enterprise ( Azure) it is more than convenient to "embrace" Linux, but time will tell if the history is doomed to repeat itself for those who forgot who is the enemy.
    My personal 2 cents on this matter...
     
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    @ anticupidon yep I agree 100%, is true so you make my day :D
     

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    Chastity Maha Guru

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    Microsoft has a distribution license for actual Unix. (Remember Minix anyone?) They wouldn't need to reverse engineer a product they can already release. :)
     
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    Minix is a "Unix like" operating system originally developed in 1987 by Andrew S Tanenbaum, and which is still actively in development.... Has nothing to do with Microsoft at all.
     
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    It was Xenix, not Minix. For a time, it was the most popular Unix version. Kind of weird that MS was behind it. They abandoned it later on.

    Today nobody would ever use that thing anyway.
     
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    Am I correct in thinking the new Intel cpu's use a custom Linux within the chip?

    I kind of remember something about the creator of it finding out his custom Linux os was used in Intel chips?
     
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    Yes, a custom build of Minix is used....
     
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