DDR5 and USB 4.0 going mainstream in 2022 (according to internal roadmap AMD)

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    The most exciting thing about ddr5 for me is what igpu performance is going to be like with the added bandwidth.
     
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    I dont expect going mainstream even in 2022. Its gonna be expensive and rare at first. Market is saturated with ddr4. Zen3 still using am4 platform isnt going in its favor.
     

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    Adoption of new tech takes time. Availability will be low so price will certainly be high.
    What excites me is that it doesn't look like a mundane speed bump, the slide shows interesting features too.
    The minimum density quadrupled, that means in 3 to 4 years time we'll be buying 32Gb kits for 100€ as standard gaming rigs.
    The 8400 is yet to be seen, probably will be really expensive (has high speed DDR4 is), and the sweet spot will probably be around 6400.
    And sweet ECC, maybe some crashes will be a thing of the past?
     
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    AMD is reall pushing PC inovation.
     
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    I agree in some ways but the article literally concludes the opposite in the case of DDR5 and USB 4.0, with one basically already an Intel spec and DDR5 launching with Intel first.
     
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    How do we know intel is expected to take the lead?
    We have this 10th generation and the refresh after that will likely bring just pciex 4.0.
     
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    LGA 4677 supports PCI-E 5 and DDR5 - it's set to launch next year. Granted, it's a roadmap and can be delayed but the same can be said for AMDs roadmap.

    On paper Intel will support it first and SK Hynix believes Intel will be ready as they are already producing DDR5 and believe 20% of their DDR shipments will be DDR5 throughout 2021.
     
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    BA!.! Man things are looking up in the technology aspect for us in the near future.

    Upgrades are going to actually feel like that once again....."upgraded!.!". And not just (what I call) "sidegraded!"
     

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    Well, looks like there's zero chance I'm upgrading this or next year then.
     
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    Not 8400Mhz, 8400Mbps. If DDR4 requires 2100Mhz to get 4200Mbps (due to Double Data rate), DDR5 requires same 2100MHz to get 8400Mbps. They are doubling the datarate on top of DDR4 with DDR5 by running two channels per DIMM.

    EDIT: I hope this helps.
     
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    Maybe it should be called qdr now instead of ddr o_O
     
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    LOL! yes. It is similar in a way that is is quad data for same clock, but QDR is quad data per clock on single channel. So if we look at it that way, it is still DDR, just has 2 channels per DIMM.
     
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    Well DDR5 has been slated for general availability in 2021, but will likely be deployed in server first. So being "available in the mainstream market" is likely wording for offered on mainstream platforms, regardless of how quickly its adopted by consumers. That would also mean AMD won't release anything new-new in 2021. Just Zen 3 based APUs. There was so much overlap between high-end DDR3 and entry level DDR4, that it didn't offer much in the first 1-2 years. Intel being largely stagnant didn't help either (the 7700k wasn't massively better than a 4790K). AMD's architectures relying on memory bandwidth, along with their ever increasing market share, could accelerate the adoption.
     
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