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Cross by Red Harbinger

Discussion in 'Die-hard Overclocking & Case Modifications' started by L3p, Aug 15, 2012.

  1. L3p

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    Cross by Red Harbinger - Monitormountmod

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    Here I am with a new project : )
    As some of you might know, ever since I finished the L3p D3sk project all 6 of us have been busy with the company named Red Harbinger. This team exists out of these great persons.


    First project ... to improve, re-design and compatibilize the L3p D3sk.

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    This will be completely different compared to my other buildlogs..
    It's the build of the first prototype available for the market soon.
    I thought, if I have to test it anyway....
    why not make a buildlog and use this opportunity to get as much as possible input from you readers.

    Please keep in mind this is a prototype.
    Few things we already changed months ago in the design but aren't in this prototype yet.
    - Leg height 2 1/2" lower
    - Illuminating the legs
    - Lots of small things
    - Got a dual system version, should've been single : )


    So here we go!
    Can you imagine how excited I was after 12 months having this in front of my door?

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    Right after unpacking it, just had to see how it would look like :)

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    'Few' hours later.

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    Sponsors

    Updates:

    1. Unpacking the desk
    2. Renders
    3. Cross buildroom
    4. The hardware part 1
    5. The hardware part 2
    6. Inspecting the prototype
    7. Installing the prototype
    8. Modding the prototype
    9. The hardware part 3
    10. Tubing and filling
    11. Before the event
    12. Firstlook 2012
    13. Back to Cross
    14. Modding continues
    15. Monitormountmod
    16. Final adjustments
    17. Final pics

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  2. CrazyT666

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    Well. first of all....SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY ;)

    No just kiddin, i'm interested to see how the HDD are mounted? or even "vibefree" mounted?

    First of all find you're work awesome and would buy it instantly btw, only thoughts of me to optimize it a little

    Cause i have made an "Ghetto" mod of the Sharkoon Vibefixer (directly screwed an Sailing Rubber to the 5,25" bay) and it's A LOT quiter with that! I have anywhere an How-to (it's german but pictures says more than 1000 words if you interested)

    And cause of you're build, i think you would make an "High-Quality build in" of that if you like it and wanna build it in...

    Sry 4 my bad English 1st of all it isn't my motherlanguage and 2nd im tired like hell :)
     
  3. L3p

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    HDD's will be vibe free mounted like some other casemanufacturers do by screwing in rubberized screws and letting them slide into the HDD rack.
    However we're already busy improving it for even an easier system :)
     
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    Well any information of an price range for this perfect workdesk?

    oh and another thing would be a "option" (to choice when you order it) for a monitorstand?!

    A good spot would be the location of the 80mm fanhole or whats on the backside in the middle? (you see it through the glass)??? well i mean not the hole but there an arm to mount, if you understand me


    Well i hope you ain't get mad about my posts just wanna give suggestions :)
     

  5. L3p

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    Info about the price can be found in the bottom of the start post :)
     
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  6. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Peter,

    A little less sponsoring, plugging and advertising please .. a little more actual photo's please. These posts are starting to become frickin commercials. Not cool.
     
  7. L3p

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    See PM :)
     
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    my mind is crazy!!that will be sick!!!good project
     
  9. L3p

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    First of all, again want to remind you this is a prototype. :)

    Unpacking.

    So .... there it was.
    No idea what the actual weight was incl all glass panels and some other stuff I needed.
    I think around 90-100Kg.
    I was 'home alone' and tried pulling/pushing it, but didn't move an inch.

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    5 minutes later it even started to rain :)

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    Since there wasn't a neighbour available either I came up with a thousands of years old idea.
    It worked pretty well :p

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    My heart still bouncing. Package was just as big as my couch.

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    First top package contained these panels for the legs (old design) and the glass for the shelf.
    (Other top package contained some hardware you'll see later)

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    Glass for the shelf connected to the legs.
    It has a frosted bottom and rounded edges.

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    And a lasered logo on top.

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    The big package exists out of 3 smaller boxes. Top one contains the desk itself and all smaller stuff needed for the desk.

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    As you can see the desk will come partly assembled.

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    Second level contains the big top glass panel

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    With a frosted bottom edge, also a small logo and off course rounded edges.

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  10. L3p

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    The third and last box contains the assembled legs, backside cover (where PSU and all cables go), and the panel between the legs for more stability.
    (This panel got a great improvement in the next prototype on looks and stability, you'll see it later)

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    Unpacking the small stuff.

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    Leg and backside cover on the background.

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    Unboxing the desk.

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    Back side.

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    Front.
    It's incredibly huge ... I knew the size but still the only word that came up in me was WOW!

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    Well.. I was still on my own, so had to find a way to lift it on the legs just for a few photos : )

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    Really love this color and way of powdercoating.
    Off course it will be available in many colors/finishes.

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  11. L3p

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    The grommets!
    Well I got a few spares I guess.

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    The switches. What color do you guys prefer?

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    My choice is black/red led : )

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    Glass panel on top of the desk. (Still without rubber seal)

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    As you guys can see it's pretty high, we lowered the next prototype about 2 1/2".

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    I found a good purpose for that quite unhandleable box :D

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    Tomorrow I'll post some (concept) renders we're busy with incl. the monitor stand.
     
  12. Veteran

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    Looks cool,dont think i would buy one though although im sure many people will.
     
  13. L3p

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    Renders!

    Well I got some questions about the possible colors and the monitor stand.
    Maybe this post will make some things clear.
    There's also a render coming up with all the in and outside measurements in mm and inch to answer some of your questions.


    These were made by perfect cooperation between Shawn and Scott :)
    First of all an exploded view of the prototype I have here.

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    And the HDD bracket I personally won't be using for this build but will be in the standard desk.

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    Our plans are to have the desk in a few standard colors.
    However there is an option to order the desk completely color-customized.
    So this render is just to show what parts could be in your own custom color.

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    The monitor stand.
    This is still just a concept, but we're working on it :)

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    Reservoirs.
    Also a concept we're busy with.
    Don't ask for details :D

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    And some renders of a white desk with concept reservoirs.

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  14. dune2

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    Cool concept. I like it that you are moving this to the mainstream.

    One suggestion from me, try to make the legs adjustable in size. This should be fairly easy to achieve from an engineering point of view. And it would greatly benefit the number of potential buyers if the table hard an adjustable height. It wouldn't buy a desk I could not adjust in height, especiall if i plan to spend many hours at it. Wrong height makes you sit bad which results in back strain. Maybe something to consider for version 2.0?
     
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    LOL at that car with the eyelashes.

    Looks like it will be a cool mod. Excited to see the end result.
     

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    Honestly, I am someone who takes pride in doing his own builds that are unique on their own, but I like, really want this.

    Awesome sauce x2.
     
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    I love the resies and
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    Thats just badass.
     
  18. L3p

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    Been a while since we're all very busy. : )

    First of all I want to thank Youri Vandevelde!
    From the very start he has been a Red Harbinger 'fan' and he made a FAQ by gathering all questions and answers from all forums and facebook.
    Red Harbinger FAQ
    Also added this link to the topic start and will be updated constantly.
    If you have any other questions ... shoot : )


    We had a lot of changes in the desk.
    Example of only 10 of the 40 changes of the last 5 weeks.

    - Less screws on the vanity plate/leg plating.
    - Have a stand-off PEM under the top and middle portion of the right side tray to prevent sagging.
    - PEM's on inside of legs to attach the bottom leg rest, top to chassis, and rear to backplate.
    - Added faster bottom access panel removal/install option.
    - Tube holes near cpu just as high as the holes in the middle/bridge.
    - Center bridge monitor cabling section has a screw in the way.
    - 5.25" slots too narrow cause of powdercoat.
    - HDD tray hole covers
    - Fan connector space on left and right.
    - Grommet holes beneath 5.25" trays.

    Lots of things you find out once you have a prototype to test.


    For this specific build I also have a small problem : )
    The prototype intended for me to test appeared to be a dual pc desk.
    Wouldn't have been a problem except there were no single pc desk 'firewall' and 'HDD-tray'.
    Manufacturing a single set in the US with the same powdercoat and sending it to Holland would be too expensive.
    So decided to build a dual pc desk .. Need to be tested anyway.
    Still need to arrange the hardware but that will hopefully work out.

    Off course I also needed a place to build and test this desk....


    When I just took the picture from this corner my wife ... never mind .... no option :)

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    Attic? Nah, need to tidy it up then. Now I know exactly where everything is :D
    (It is a bit cleaned up as we speak though)

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    Last option ... the spare room.

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    Check!

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    After moving the desk upstairs it did get a bit crowded.

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    Went shopping for some cabinets.

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    Assembled the legs to make it more firm.
    (This design has already been changed, improved and lowered)

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    Firm enough for now.

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    Approved!

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    First thing to test ... mainboard layout :)

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    And off course sitting behind it after a long day.

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    This weekend more about the to be used hardware and watercooling.
     
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    Here a first look on the hardware and watercooling to be used.
    Sorry for the amount of photos, because the prototype got here later then expected I had some time to do all this in front : )


    First the package from Highflow.nl
    In love...

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    And 2 pumps from a previous project.

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    Fillports for the 'Firewall' and a tube test sample.

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    And more tube.

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    A flowmeter I can't live without anymore : )

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    Thanks Freddy!


    The package from Cooler Master.
    1500W dual rail!

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  20. L3p

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    And the fans with red lighting.

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    Thanks Marco en Ruud!


    Quite some extension cables going into a pc this size.
    BitFenix wanted to help me out on this.

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    And did a small order from Highflow, had a small idea :)

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    I'm satisfied.

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    Thanks Lester!!
     

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