Creative Sound Blaster Z Series

Discussion in 'Soundcards, Speakers HiFI & File formats' started by IanM, Aug 15, 2012.

  1. -Tj-

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    Agree for playback it should be good, but I kinda doubt for something like Steinberg Cubase or Propellerheads Reason or Abeldon, etc.

    I tried ASIO4ALL once in Reason and it failed badly compared to HW ASIO. :)
     
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  2. Mufflore

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    ASIO4ALL did under 5ms with an E8400, your CPU might just do it.
     
  3. sykozis

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    They're THX TruStudio cards....good luck with Dolby support. The Recon3D cards don't support Dolby, so I wouldn't expect these to either as they'll use the same (or very similar) THX TruStudio Pro software as the Recon3D cards.
     
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  4. -Tj-

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    You're missing the point, HW is still HW. And speaking of ASIO4AL, I had some sound distortion (crackle, pops, robotic sounds), idk it was probably program compatibility issue,.. lol I removed that turd and stayed at HW ASIO2.0 ever since :D


    Anyway, yes i know these mainstream cards aren't really meant for ultra professional audio production, but still it can be handy :)
     

  5. GenClaymore

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    Most likey not, The Asus Xonar HDAV 1.3 non Slims with the RCA out's and the Deluxe with the 5.1 RCA out did Full blu ray audio thru analog as long you used Total Media Theater/TMT5. Tho your gonna have to find one off ebay.

    Unless you meant HDMI and not thru analog.
     
  6. Mufflore

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    If they support PAP (Protected Audio Path) then they will be able to play high bitrate audio on Blu Ray.
    No PAP = no support.

    Although there is a way round it :)
     
  7. Anarion

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    Well, for starters I can play music while gaming and still hear other sound if needed. It also seems more stable since wasapi have caused some really weird issues and I had to reinstall drivers. I have cubase and it is the best output to use in that case.
     
  8. Mufflore

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    In which case you are still using a mixer, not clean audio throughput.

    Wasapi is part of Windows 7, if its unstable, its worth reporting.
     
  9. gamerk2

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    On paper, the Z might displace the DX as the sub $100 card of choice. We'll see what the full spec sheet says.
     
  10. gamerk2

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  11. Anarion

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    No, it bypasses the Windows mixer completely. It's pretty damn easy to test. I disable Widnows' audio service and sound keeps playing. Windows volume panel doesn't recognize any sound when using ASIO out either. Real ASIO implementation is not comparable to ASIO4ALL at all really which is kernel streaming ASIO wrapper.
     
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  12. Mufflore

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    If 2 audio signals are being mixed together, then you ARE using a mixer.
     
  13. Anarion

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    The point is that it bypasses Windows mixer, result is much better when playing two sources. Also ASIO out seems to be priority one when doing bit-matched playback.
     
  14. Mufflore

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    Thats not the point I am making.
    If any mixer is used, the signal isnt straight through.

    Unless your audio app has exclusive access to the sound hardware, there will be some mixing.
     
  15. Anarion

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    ASIO driver has direct access to X-Fi but it doesn't block Windows from playing sound either. Sure, some kind of mixing has to happen when two sources play at the same time. WASAPI's biggest annoyance is that it blocks everything.
     
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  16. Mufflore

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    You have it back to front.
    Wasapis biggest advantage is that it can block everything except what you are playing (exclusive mode).

    If you want your source to be played without interference, Wasapi (exclusive mode) is perfect.
    If you need to play 2 audio sources at the same time, you cant have pure audio from a single source so theres no point in doing a quality comparison with exclusive mode.
     
  17. Anarion

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    Huoh... I know that and it wasn't the point.
     
  18. Meocene

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    what i'd like to know about wasapi is whether or not allows a sound cards drivers to directly access the audio buffer...

    that's all i wanna know.
     
  19. Mufflore

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    It appears to have the feature
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd371455(v=vs.85).aspx

     
  20. ROBSCIX

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    That is, well standard for todays cards.

    The 120 dB rating is a specification, so in the real world you may hit about 116-117dB. Newer entry level cards should start hitting those marks for the next couple of crops.

    Nice to see they put some good DAC on thos SoundCard chips. Not sure where they get their marketing guys but they need new ones.
     

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