Creative Labs shows high-end Sound BlasterX AE-9

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  1. sykozis

    sykozis Ancient Guru

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    Realtek audio chips are actually pretty cheap. That's why they're available on every motherboard.
     
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    It's a good news that new high-end Sound BlasterX AE-9 is coming, but what about their famous crappy support(everyone who had Creative sound card know that)? Hey, Creative, what the hell do you think you're doing? You make good products, but why you not hire few good engineers to produce good software/drivers? Why you not hire this talented guy DANIEL KAWAKAMI, who resurrected and gave life to your dying products? Their forum ruined down in 2018 since hacker's attack's and they(Creative) make decision to shut the forum down completely(what a brilliant idea). So, where your users will be able to report bugs/glitches, when your forum is gone? You're destroying your own reputation. SHAME ON YOU Creative! SHAME ON YOU Sim Wong Hoo!
    Creative, before you make a product, ask the users what they want to have in the new product. I hope Sim Wong Hoo, will read this, and if he care, he will do something about it and soon Creative won't swimming in money, but in ocean of money.

    I own Sound BlasterX AE-5, It's nice but would have been even better if had Dolby and DTS encoding for optical out + Dolby Atmos. I decided to sell it, to buy a AE-9 if it's worth it. I read in comments, the AE-9 will come up with ES9028PRO DAC? If it's true, why you, Creative, instead of put ES9028PRO, not put ES9038PRO in AE-9, the price range between ES9038PRO and ES9028PRO is ~40$(It's not a pain to die) if we invoke this source.
     
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  3. Mufflore

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    Perhaps they have something lined up with the 9038.
    Also the 9028 is a drop in replacement for the 9018 so older designs can be used.
    The 9038 is a lot harder to get the best from it.
     
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    Can it be expected to be in the class of ASUS Xonar STX (II) regarding music?
     

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    For better price performance in music, you should consider standalone DAC/AMP. Topping D30 + A30 (for headphones) is around $200 for example.
    There more options like JDB Labs if you life in USA.
     
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    what ever happened to this card? wasn't it due out months ago?
     
  7. Andrew LB

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    Ryan @ Creative said on their reddit forum (which they actually communicate to the public on) said they'll be releasing it at the time of their upcoming 30 year anniversary for soundblaster.
     
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    what made me now watch is they said no USB onboard to pcie on Unit that is the reason i avoided the evga nu audio. Dedicated DAC through PCIE :) Evga is DAC to USB to PCIE :/. I am worried though what they will ask $
     
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    Between this or the Topping DX3 Pro which would be a better buy? Primary use is gaming and some spotify on the side. I am using a KRK Rokit 7 Gen4 speaker
     
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    BlasterX AE-series main feature is audiophile-grade headphone amplifier - if you mostly listen through studio monitors, consider an external box with balanced preamp outputs, something like SMSL M300 http://www.smsl-audio.com/productshow.asp?id=155 that uses Asahi Kasei AK4497 converter.
     
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    I agree... Onboard sound is never a consideration given in any MOBO review/ purchase(s) I've ever made, since being into PC building and modding. I've found with different boards, each with different sound "chips" throughout the years (talking about 30+ boards ranging from AMD 640 to Intel Z370) that no matter the newer and more improved the onboard tech got, which admittedly there has been some improvement on the gaming audio aspects, the musical-quality was/ is always/ still: shallow, dull and retains a less refined sound as compared to a separate DAC/ amp or dedicated sound card solutions.
     
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    It's been a problem with Creative since the days of the original xfi cards. Good hardware but terrible software and support.
     
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    Sorry, but this just isn't true anymore.
     
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  14. insp1re2600

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    Really?
     
  15. TheDeeGee

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    15+ Years of Creative Soundcards here and never had any issues.

    My current Sound Blaster ZxR is working flawless as well.
     
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    I have an X-fi Titanium HD Pro PCI-E version, in my i7 4790k machine, really high-end model with replaceable op-amps, it's was made in 2011 or so. Love it. Have a Audigy RX 7.1 in here as was on a budget, it sounds pretty good, much better than Realtek could ever hope for. I can and do produce audio but I can entirely hear the difference. Even decent car audio doesn't come remotely close to a good sound card + Thimeo Stereo Tool + Winamp (yes, that old thing!).
    Never an issue, only just have to make sure you get the right drivers for the X-fi as some are just cheapie cards that are junk, others mid-range ones are nice, top-end is really a real deal. I remember upgrading from an X-fi Fatality pci-e to a Titanium HD Pro, I could clearly hear the difference. You just can't download one driver pack and run them all though, there's a bunch of different ones hence people think their soundcard is broken when they get the wrong drivers for it. Have to pull the model number or hardware ID to find out and be sure.
    Have been using since I had the Sound Blaster 16 media kit for my AMD 486, which came with a non-pnp SB16 and a 2x Matashita (?) CD-ROM that said 'Reveal' on it, and the sound card is where you plugged in the IDE-like cable and audio cord for it. If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't have gotten into Doom as I got a shareware edition on CD-ROM as a sampler.
    Doom, Heretic, Descent, Warcraft... I loved all of those, they were all shareware but you couldn't pry me off that thing back in 1994~1995.
    So maybe I am partial, but rightfully so. They've been good to me, and I still use their sound cards in my audio work. Maybe there is better, surely, but this is good enough and works for me.
    Motherboard audio? Never, no thank-you, even if there is no mouse-movement interference etc like on some cheap board, it still just sounds flat and lifeless and the recording line-in's are always so easy to peak / clip due to the high noise floor VS a good sound card. I don't care if the motherboard has the highest-end Realtek chip out there, or the latest Snark Barker. It will not be a Sound Blaster.
     
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    Can't wait to see your face when not being able to tell the difference between modern motherboard audio and Sound Blaster on blind test :D
     
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    Majority seems to miss the point that if you want better sound, you need better speakers / headphones. This is what 100% improves the sound.

    Better DAC/AMP will only slightly refine it. The difference might not even be noticeable.
    Spending more money on DAC/AMP than speakers or headphones is the worst investments out there.

    Obviously, if sound card features (sound recording, mixing, etc...) are the first priority, it is totally different topic.
     
  19. bobblunderton

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    I wish that was the case.
    I do audio production, and yes I have a good amp and boxed 6x9 car speakers here. If that was the case, I wouldn't have to spend an additional 60~250$ on a fancy sound card (granted, the Audigy Rx is maybe 'meh' compared to a 200$ option, but it'll do until I get around to getting a better one, I'm on a fixed income). I can't tell much difference in games, that could be routed through the monitor for all I care, but making music and listening to the music of others must go through a good sound card. I hear a lot of more subtle notes that are completely / mostly masked/missed by cheaper and integrated audio solutions. It's been that way for a while. There is also the fact that my instrument software for some of my audio software runs on the legacy E-MU chip on X-fi and Audigy Creative cards, as that's where I started developing it back in 1/2006.
     
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  20. DmitryKo

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    Onboard HD Audio codecs are good but rarely very good or excellent - the emphasis is on low implementation costs, not high sound quality.

    Blind tests are for subjective quality testing, which evaluates lossless compression or some audiovisual 'enhancement' that cannot be represented by one single parameter.

    For frequency response, THD, and noise, I trust instrumented audio tests performed with RightMark Audio Analyzer or similar suite, thank you.

    Audiophile grade headphones have to be connected to an audiophile grade headphone amplifier, which is rare in computer sound cards. That's the reason why BlasterX AE series get a lot of attention.

    Good desktop speakers (such as compact studio reference monitors) are probably fine with any decent external sound card that uses a good quality DAC.
     
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