CPU-Z scores Intel Core i7-12700K at over 800 points.

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  2. Andy Watson

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    I'm looking forward to the Guru3d's review and others. Depending on temps and power this could be the new Conroe for Intel after AMD had K7/ K8 ...... to put a historical slant on things.

    Maybe I should have waited and not bought the AMD 5800x, it's good but it has it's quirks and overclocking satisfaction was never satiated. I wonder how these overclock with it's big core little core thing ?
     
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    Also it looks like people who bought Rocket Lake wasted their money considering .... that now seems the ultimate stop gap processor whilst Intel concentrated on this.
     
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    About a 20% single core performance increase over Zen 3. As predicted. But Zen3D will close that gap. I'm sure these leaks are only from DDR5 variants of Alder Lake.

    AMD can simply reduce prices on the 5900X or others... But knowing Intel, Intel will just price these new CPUs even higher than current Zen 3 CPUs.
     

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    The only good Rocket Lake CPU are the budget one (11400K, 11400F), the high ends RKL are a waste of sand, RKL launch remind me of Kaby Lake before being succeeded swiftly by the excellent Coffee Lake 8700K
     
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    Frankly, Alder Lake is a stop-gap. Intel took as many of their new cores are possible and "glued" more low performance cores onto them. Then they put in another, smaller CPU (Intel Thread Director) to tell Windows 11 how to use this new Franken-CPU.

    All that stemming from Intel not being able to scale their big cores to more than 8 on the desktop. Alder Lake is a stop-gap.
     
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    You don't like Intel, yeah I get it ... sigh ...

    Having been putting in cpus back since the Intel 2086 I am bored of fanboys cutting off their noses to spite their faces on both sides. At any given time there is an obvious processor to choose.

    ;)
     
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    Don't get any hopes for OC potential. You have monster CPU for another few years , better sit back and watch the battle . Alder vs Zen3+ :D
     
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    It's nice to look forward to Kapu !
     
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    no, that was icelake.
     

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    If these 800pts are without OC@5GHz then we could see 850pts with 12900K and similar setup. Damn I can't wait for proper lower-latency DDR5s and some solid OC on these CPUs. These numbers look insane.
     
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    What are you going to do with it though? any GPU that benefit from fast CPU are 2000usd+ now :D
     
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    Well there are other uses for fast CPUs apart from gaming... like compiling huge projects, rebuilding lights and paths, video processing... you name it.

    btw. c++ project linking is still a singl-thread task which can take a huge part of your build time. With this CPU, that could improve significantly. But that would also mean I'll spend less time on these forums... so it's a win-win I guess :)
     
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    @haste you are overclocking systems that do compiling work ? oO
     
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    YOLO
     
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    Yes I do, but only at home :) Honestly I did this for past 20 years and I never had a single problem with this... or at least I hope I didn't... you know... nobody complained about random pointers flying around :)
     
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    The thing about common sense (obviousness) is it's not so common. There are people who get some pretty overkill CPUs just for gaming purposes.
     
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    That's smoking my 5800x.

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    Wow that's a blazing fast single thread CPU, i guess this is a best case scenario, i won't expect that much of overclocking, this CPUs automatically boost a single core as much as they can, i suppose that a good cooling will be very important to keep those nice numbers on single thread performance, in any way, it is impressive what they are getting and this is very good for us as consumers because this is the rate of innovation we deserve from years ago.
     
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    The i5 12600k is rumored to be slightly faster than 5800x in pretty much everything, even more so in gaming.
    12700k is supposed to do the same with 5900x.

    When prices will cool off a bit we might have a good reason to upgrade, at least those on older generation cpus.

    The main question is, do we wait another year+ for half decent DDR5 and raptor lake + AMD response?
    Or we buy alder lake and pair it with fast ddr4 now.
    I personally am tempted by both options :rolleyes:
     
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