CPU vs GPU Upgrade (780 Ti>1060 or 1300X>1500X)

Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by signex, Sep 11, 2017.

?

Wich would be the better upgrade.

Poll closed Sep 12, 2017.
  1. GTX 1060

    4 vote(s)
    57.1%
  2. Ryzen 1500X

    4 vote(s)
    57.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. signex

    signex Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    8,341
    Likes Received:
    20
    GPU:
    Strix 1070 OC 8GB
    Today i ordered the Ryzen 1500X with a NZXT X52 watercooler but i'm having second thoughts.

    1300X is a decent CPU but lacks more then 4 threads wich some games take advantage of.
    It would help in BF1 and PUBG, and maybe most UE4 games i guess wich i play quiet a bit of.

    But i think this GPU had it's days as well, even a 1050 Ti beats it in a few games.
    I can still reject the package tomorrow if you guys think i should go for a 1060 instead.

    I've added a poll just in case.
     
  2. DW75

    DW75 Master Guru

    Messages:
    398
    Likes Received:
    20
    GPU:
    Zotac GTX 1080
    I think you should see if you can get a bit more money, and jump into an R5 1600X instead. It would be very nice having 6 cores/12 threads at 3.6ghz with a 4ghz boost. This is the same clocks that the R7 1800X has. The 1600X just has two less cores, and 4 less threads.
     
    signex likes this.
  3. cryohellinc

    cryohellinc Master Guru

    Messages:
    892
    Likes Received:
    60
    GPU:
    1080Ti SeaHawkX@2k+PG348Q
    Go for GPU.
     
  4. signex

    signex Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    8,341
    Likes Received:
    20
    GPU:
    Strix 1070 OC 8GB
    I've already looked into that, but we'll never know when games start to fully support more then 4 cores. When they do i can always sell the 1500X and get a 1600, or by that time AMD releases new Ryzen CPU's.
     

  5. DW75

    DW75 Master Guru

    Messages:
    398
    Likes Received:
    20
    GPU:
    Zotac GTX 1080
    Well, it is up to you. We are already seeing games using more than 4 cores now though. I would dive into a 1600X, and then just keep the 780 Ti until Volta comes out.
     
  6. airbud7

    airbud7 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    4,699
    Likes Received:
    298
    GPU:
    MSI RX 480 ARMOR 4G OC
    I would wait till 8700k benchmarks come out....if you are stuck with rizen then oh well...get the fastest rizen you can get....780ti is a still a great card!....I wish i had one.
     
  7. signex

    signex Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    8,341
    Likes Received:
    20
    GPU:
    Strix 1070 OC 8GB
    If you lived in Holland i'd happily trade with you lol. :D

    1500X is the best i could get though, i really wanted a NZXT Kraken X52/62 to fit my S340 case and lighting. The performance gap isn't that big vs 1600/1600x so i think i'll keep the 780 Ti for a little longer till next gen of cards.

    I couldn't really find benchmarks of a OC'd 780 Ti vs 1060, most of them use the reference design wich is clocked alot lower.
     
    airbud7 likes this.
  8. xIcarus

    xIcarus Master Guru

    Messages:
    822
    Likes Received:
    23
    GPU:
    1080 Ti AORUS
    A 780Ti is roughly equivalent to a 970, which is slightly slower than a 1060 (within 10-15%).

    Upgrading from an 1300X to an 1500X nets you almost 0 singletheaded performance advantage despite the larger cache, but does give you some multithreaded advantage given by the SMT/Hyperthreading present on the 1500X. 15% on average and maybe some 25-30% at the very best (in serious SMT-favored scenarios like 3D rendering under certain conditions). You won't see those 15% in games unless you're significantly core starved, like in the case of dual core i3s. Games usually leave SMT alone unless absolutely necessary.

    If I were in your place I wouldn't upgrade to either of these. I'd raise money for a 1600X or higher, in order to prepare the machine for a Volta upgrade next year.
    The 780Ti is still strong; I was planning to upgrade my 970 with Volta, had it not suffered an untimely beer-induced death. I advise you to do the same.

    If money is tight, you can just start raising money for next year's Volta and upgrade the CPU at a later time; knowing AMD, AM4 is likely going to be quite a long-lived platform meaning that you'll have a lot of chances to upgrade your CPU in the future.
    Had you been on an Intel platform, I wouldn't have recommended this.
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2017
    signex and Kaarme like this.
  9. signex

    signex Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    8,341
    Likes Received:
    20
    GPU:
    Strix 1070 OC 8GB
    I have the new CPU for a while now, it did give me some advantages in BF1 and UE4 titles like PUBG.

    I hear what you're saying, i knew from the start that single core performance was going to be the same but i did it for the 4 additional threads wich some games take advantage of.
    It did clock higher then the 1300X when OC'ing so that's a good thing too.

    780 Ti might still be fast due to raw power, but some newer games actually run worse then a 1050 Ti even!
    Take Forza Horizon 3 for example, i saw someone run it at 60fps with a g4560 and a 1050 ti at medium/high settings.
    I can barely run it at 40fps at medium settings with this CPU at the same resolution.

    The new Forza Motorsport 7 is no exception either, it runs yet much smoother on a 1050 Ti then on my 780 Ti.

    But yet again, it could be due to running out of vram maybe? cause 1050 Ti has 4GB models.
     
  10. Agent-A01

    Agent-A01 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    10,259
    Likes Received:
    230
    GPU:
    1080Ti H20
    1GB of vram can make or break performance if the game has to page out memory constantly.

    Have you tried low textures to test if it's better?
    Obviously you can use MSI AB to see what kind of usage you are getting.

    BTW don't buy another quad core ryzen, get a 1600 at minimum.
    Not saying you need it but no point in going from a quad to a quad.
     

  11. nz3777

    nz3777 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    1,907
    Likes Received:
    28
    GPU:
    Gtx 980 Strix
    We went from a Gtx 780 (Daughter) and myself to a Gtx 980 and the diffrence between the two is Huge! But you have a damm-good card the Asus Matrix 780 ti is nothing to snuff at that thing was the Fastest Gpu when it 1st hit the market! What Cpu do you currently run btw? I was not able to tell with the above thread.

    Ryzen sweet-spot seems to be the R5 1600 - My opinion at least.
     
  12. signex

    signex Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    8,341
    Likes Received:
    20
    GPU:
    Strix 1070 OC 8GB
    FH3 maxes out my GPU usage, so it might be just that and not a vram issue.
    I turned down some settings in-game, but without restarting wich it needs to to take effect.
    But some don't, and vram usage was around 2660mb and fps between 40-50 and sometimes above 60.

    Motorsport 7 only runs good when i stick to my native resolution and not using upscaler above 120% cause my GPU sat at around 50-60% wich is why i wanted to bump it up.
    I haven't run the game with AB, only FH3 but i'm pretty sure Motorsport 7 runs out of vram, why else would i have so much GPU room left and still get drops. (I monitored it with CAM wich doesn't have a overlay but the game ran windowed at 1440p so i could put CAM next to the game window)

    I don't think there's another quad Ryzen above 1500x hehe, but i won't, if i'm able to, i get the 1600 or 1600x.

    I have a Ryzen 1500X now running at 4ghz, but yea 780 Ti is still fast enough it's just the vram is quiet low for today's standards in triple A titles.
    But it can still keep up quiet well. :)
     
  13. nz3777

    nz3777 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    1,907
    Likes Received:
    28
    GPU:
    Gtx 980 Strix
    1500x I think you are Golden my bro do not need to upgrade anything. I bought the 980 for $100 bucks,hows that for a bargin? Lol. I have seen 970s for around $150 or so and 980s will fetch somwere near 200-250. Only that 1gb xtra v-ramm tough.
     
  14. nz3777

    nz3777 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    1,907
    Likes Received:
    28
    GPU:
    Gtx 980 Strix
    Ah yes the good ol 10 series from nvidia, Forza is a new game so it will run much better on new cards so yeah, bit surprised you can only hit 40fps with your set-up.

    I am also saving up for a new system myself but It is possible I go with intel instead (havent decided) I need every fps I can get, yes I am a Freak like that I think most of us here are lol. Something Like 7700k small form factor plus a Gtx 1080ti, sli possibly? Also want to build our 1st watercooling loop so I will be needing your guys help here pretty soon.
     
  15. Andrewtst

    Andrewtst Active Member

    Messages:
    94
    Likes Received:
    3
    GPU:
    Nvidia GTX 970M 6GB
    Go for GPU upgrade but better upgrade to 1070.

    Not point upgrade CPU, it won't help much for you especially on gaming.
     

  16. Hammie

    Hammie Master Guru

    Messages:
    695
    Likes Received:
    7
    GPU:
    760 SMG 28" 1ms 3840x2160
    Go with the 1600 my friend. gl
     
  17. Hammie

    Hammie Master Guru

    Messages:
    695
    Likes Received:
    7
    GPU:
    760 SMG 28" 1ms 3840x2160
    Actually go with neither. gl
     

Share This Page