Core i9-7980XE 18-core Benchmarks

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    It's has been quiet with X299 and the Skylake-X platform processors. We've seen the 10-core review, the 12-core parts in stores but other then that it remains silent. However in Asia a website leake...

    Core i9-7980XE 18-core Benchmarks
     
  2. CrazY_Milojko

    CrazY_Milojko Ancient Guru

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    All I have to say is: thank you Threadripper :)

    On the other side just look at those specs: 165W and $2000 price tag, guess/hope small AC is shipped with this thing to keep it cool.
     
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    Kaarme Master Guru

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    Intel probably doesn't see such a huge market for monsters like this that it's more profitable to try to get lots of money from the few than little money from... the few. Their goal probably was to beat TR, and they did manage that. Now those that want the most powerful regardless of the price can get this.
     
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    Let them, Thanks to this 18C inte "Beast" AMD gonna have to release the 20/24/32 (1970x/1980x/1990XT imo) cores TR in future :), and that will be checkmate on X399 vs X299 socket.
     

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    Ryu5uzaku Ancient Guru

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    This won't go cheap no matter what with current process node. TR is way cheaper to produce.

    So this was running 4.2ghz on all cores for all tests? Or how should I read that. So TR needs 5.2ghz to run that score roughly. 1ghz difference with 4 less threads kk in cinebench that is. And at 4ghz TR gets 3300-3400 in cinebench.
     
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    Looks kind of funny. 36 CPU utilization graphs in task manager.
     
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  7. Silva

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    The only thank you worth to AMD is for people to buy it. No use thanking AMD for making Intel lowering prices to buy Intel...It's like waiting for AMD to release a card so you can buy Nvidia...

    Also, I think it's 180W TDP.

    ahahaha
    I guess the opposite is just the same xD

    It is a beast of a processor, both in workforce, heat and price.
     
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  8. David Lake

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    I'm confuzed, I dont see the 7980 on any of those charts?

    Oh got it! I did just get out of bed.
     
  9. Ricepudding

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    Personally think it looks amazing :p makes mine showing 8 seem so insignificant XD
    I don't think this was ever intended for a typical user... basically for servers and heavy workstations, places where they most likely have a building or least a big room with AC :p
    Be interesting to see if water cooling alone can cool this enough, or if it just throttles like hell, 36 core running at 4.2 GHz must get insanely hot!!!

    HH you getting a review sample? :D
     
  10. CrazY_Milojko

    CrazY_Milojko Ancient Guru

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    Yep, completely agree with you about "thanking AMD", nothing more to add. Next hi-end build on my side is going to be AMD no doubt about that. Sadly but 10 years behing all of my gaming/work rigs at work and home were Intel based except one office PC back in 2008 and my daughter's gaming PC at home, those were AMD based, not that I'm happy about this facts.

    Btw on Intel pages it said this puppy is 165W. Kinda weird that 14c/28t 7940X has the TDP same as 18c/36t 7980XE.
     
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    CrazY_MIlojko, The 500Mhz base clock difference is keeping the TDP the same.
     
  12. Misha Engel

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    Nice benchmarks my i9-7980XE runs at 9 GHz and I have nothing to prove it....

    Cinebench R15 Multi.

    http://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu_benchmark-cinebench_r15_multi_core-8

    Threadripper 1950X 3151 $1.000 3,151 p/$ 16x3,7 GHz all-core
    Core i9-7900x 2194 $ 1.000 2,194 p/$ 10x4 GHz all-core
    Core i9-7980xe 3455 $ 2.000 1,77 p/$ 18x3,4 GHz all-core
    EPYC 7401p 4208 $ 1.100 3,825 p/$ 24x2,8 GHz all-core

    I don't know how seriously we have to take cpu-monkey but it looks a lot more credible then the numbers I saw in this article.

    And the winner is.... EPYC 7401p
     
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    Very nice, now we just need EVGA to get their f**king X299 Dark motherboard out the door ;)
     
  14. JamesSneed

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    Look at that last task manager screen with the frequency, all cores are under load that should not be boost speeds. I'm pretty sure this was from a 4.2Ghz OC on all cores. Thoughts?
     
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    AMD won the Price Battle but Intel won the Performance War
     

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    Until the 24/28/32c ThreadRipper's arrive...

    Intel's process allows a maximum of 28c currently and I doubt they'd be able to market that for less than $10K going on their current pricing scheme. 32c TR4 though An optimistic $2.5K :D
     
  17. Misha Engel

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    No they did not, intel lost big-time on price/perfomance/features.

    Core i9-7980xe 3455 $ 2.000 1,77 p/$ 18x3,4 GHz all-core (max. guaranteed speed).
    18x3,4=61,2 GHz, 44 PCIe-lanes, max 128GB/ram(quad-channel)
    CPU+motherboard = $ 2.000 + $ 200 = $ 2.200,-

    EPYC 7401p 4208 $ 1.100 3,825 p/$ 24x2,8 GHz all-core (max guaranteed speed).
    24x2,8=67,2 GHz, 128 PCIe-lanes, max 2048 GB/ram(octa-channel)
    CPU+motherboard = $ 1.100 + $ 600 = $ 1.700,-

    Only paid overclockers run a cpu like it was done in this article(LN2 or phase-change).
     
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    Is there any source saying there will be 32c TR or is this just what people are hoping? A 32c TR would cannibalize their Epyc sales, and I don't really see the benefit of such a product. The amount of PCIe lanes provided by TR is still plenty even for server use. The only benefits of TR over Epyc are the prices (and even then, Epyc is relatively cheap) and overclocking. Getting a 16-core to a sustained 4GHz on a high-end liquid cooling system is already a feat in of itself. Do people really think you're going to get any decent OC results on a 32-core system? Let's not forget the practicality of such a product, either. There is a need for a 32-core Epyc, but I'm finding there are very few people who have practical uses for even 16-core TRs.

    Remember, Intel planned released the 7980XE at last minute (relatively). The only reason it exists was so Intel would have a product that will outperform AMD in this class of hardware. AMD doesn't need to make a product to out-do it.

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    Reminds me of the Cold War, were the US and Russia kept making more nukes, just to one-up each other, only to realize either one of them had enough nukes to blow up the whole planet. At some point, people need to realize that more cores isn't going to make your everyday tasks run better. And even if games do end up using 8+ threads, I assure you, the game was not designed with your $1000+ CPU in mind.
     
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  19. Emille

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    You can get a 16 core threadripper 1950x for $100 less than a 10 core skylake x...you wouldn't have to have some serious self loathing to even consider the higher core skylake x cpus considering their clock speed is so diminished compared to amds lower at the bottom but consitent to the top type of deal.
     
  20. D3M1G0D

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    Yes, I think the 7980XE is mostly for show, kind of like a symbolic product to maintain their image as the top dog. The price alone indicates this - there's no comparing a $1000 chip to a $2000 one. Intel is not even sending out free samples for review so even they are not considering this a viable, mass-market product.

    The 1950X is in a very good position, competing against the 7900X at the $1K price point. The 7980XE is no real threat, and I agree that there is no need for AMD to try to out-do it.
     
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