Core i9 12900K beats Ryzen 9 5950X in Ashes of Singularity by 40%.

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    kapu Ancient Guru

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    Things looking interesting this season . Intel is back in to the game . I think performance/$ will go up quite a bit this winter.
     
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    interesting.

    but rumor and as HH said:
    "So we don't know if the benchmarks were conducted with (heavy) overclocks".

    but given Intel has had plenty of lead time, picking a title like "AoTS" is problematic and somewhat devious. we all know this is an AMD title (Zing!) that will perform better with an AMD gpu. picking Nvidia for the gpu was a bit of fun right there, but understandable as virtually half of the market for the i-9 is high-end gaming.
    but all i'm really thinking is let's see some real (real world) testing with power and heat factored in.
     
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    wow this would be a lot.
     

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    Yep, this is a huge leap for Intel, and AMD are now dead in the water. Zen 4 is a year away, by then Intel will be on its AL refresh. Really curious what the response is going to be, because if these are the gains we're looking at, this holiday season is going to be all Intel.
     
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    Sure the new processor will be faster but Intel always exaggerates, for example my result is better than 5950x Opera Snapshot_2021-09-21_175006_www.ashesofthesingularity.com.png

    Also, by chance, a new patch was released Annotation 2021-09-21 153118.png
     
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    DDR 4 VS 5 advantage intel, windows 11 vs 10 advantage intel, can't wait to see what differences this makes after some proper guru reviews
     
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    Does anyone actually play Ashes of Singularity, or is it just an esoteric benchmark suite these days? I seem to recall it was the poster boy of AMD Mantle, or something.

    The percentage seems a bit high, but I'm sure it will be somewhat more powerful in games. Who knows about anything else but games, especially software where all cores and threads can be utilised 100%. That remains to be seen.
     
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    Isn't aos kinda caps on about 8 cores?
    Let's wait and see what those puppies can do :)

    @Kaarme i think at this point we should name it ashes of bencularity :p
     
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    Apparently they're stock.
    The average fps overclocked results are even higher:
    153fps
    156fps

    If all these confirms in most of the games then ya, hats off, I'm fecking buying one.
     
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    who says anyone wants to buy these frankenmonster cpu's with core and celeron tech both on one soc. This technology path sucks.

    i'm saying that i don't need these cheap easy cores to run all the background bloatware that doesn't benefit me one iota, it only benefits "THEM".
     
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    @Hilbert Hagedoorn Anyone notice the dates on the two screen shots? Well there happens to be a patch @kanenas mentions that came out after the Ryzen screen shot. I have a feeling we have some shenanigan's at play here where one is using the patch to use more cores and one isn't.
     
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    There's a benchmark database that has more recent results. Even post patch there's a ~12% uplift over the 5950X with a 3090, so probably ~20% if they were both using the same GPU.
     
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    Intel are dead! AMD are kings!
     
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    don't flex your horses, it's more like a 20% increase then 40%, the tests were done with a grain of salt lol
     

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    Hilbert Intel is still not carrying about Northern European press? Any idea when we can expect some benchmarks from proper sources?
     
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    Did you look at the version number. Regardless of date it is the exact same version.
     
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    Went to check 5950x myself. It's not half bad. But like really this thing has always been weird.
     
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    I actually really doubt 5950x only gets the same as my almost stock 3900x.
     
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    Any piece of software can be designed/redesigned to manipulate a better outcome for one particular party as opposed to the other.

    1- Ubisoft games favor AMD

    2- Call of Duty games favor Nvidia

    3- Same with this benchmark for intel.
     
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