Core i5 4460 will bottleneck gtx 970?

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  1. ramthegamer

    ramthegamer Ancient Guru

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    Im thinking of upgrading my gpu to gtx 970, will core i5 4460 bottlneck the card or it s a good match with the cpu
    Im gaming at 1080p bf4, mgsV, project cars.
     
  2. AsiJu

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    ^ I really doubt it will, any decent i5 should be fine for gaming IMO.
     
  3. xeph

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    nope it probably wont, but if in worse case scenario it did bottleneck it would be very minor.
     
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    I am on a 2600k and run a 970. It is overclocked but I can say that I have no CPU limitations that are obvious to me. Project Cars runs at 2560x1080 (21:9 ultra widescreen) nailed at 60 fps with most settings on high. No FXAA or SMAA. Only MSAA in my settings. I do know that I have reflections on Med because you can not tell the difference. The big difference in reflections for Pcars comes with the Ultra setting. This will give you reflections of all cars in the puddles. Anything below that drops the reflections of cars from the water puddles. Not worth the cost.
     

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    I can tell you it depending on the game it will happen to an extend. . I have a rig with a i5 4440, and put one of my gtx 970s in it for fun.

    Its not that pretty tbh.
    It could barely keep up with my GTX 670 tbh as well in witcher 3. All done at 1080p.
    Cpu usuage was always around 8-90% and even worse at times. Most games never felt smooth I tried. I even put my i7 3820 rig @ 3.1ghz with HT on and it mopped the floor against the 4440 cause of the extra threads.
     
  6. ramthegamer

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    So will the 970 work flawlessly in bf4 if i want to play with antialiasing enabled?
     
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    It will work but honestly runs like crap imho online cause of the cpu.
    It will have higher frame drops then an older card due to cpu limitation due to the higher fps with a 970. It still would be a nice upgrade to a 970.

    For the most part it will be pretty nice. But with 1 970 with my 3930k@4.6ghz, I get over 100fps with high settins @ 2560x1080.

    BF4 loves more cpu threads and higher clocks.
     
  8. MaXThReAT

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    My i5 @ 3.8 pushes the 970 quite well. Would it be faster with an i7... of course, yes.
     
  9. Seketh

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    Benchmarks please. Because "feeling" is not an accurate metric.

    @ramthegamer:

    A better CPU will of course offer better performance. But bottleneck? Not significant, a 4460 is quite enough to be paired with a 970. A jump to a better CPU won't make the difference between having a playable gamer or not.

    But of course, that depends on your metric. Me? I'm quite happy gaming with a 760GTX on 1080p.

    I mean, I ran Star Wars: Battlefront on High preset @ 60fps, do I think paying 300€ for a 970 is worth the jump for Ultra? Of course not.
     
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  11. Damien_Azreal

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    Yes, you may see a slim bottleneck.
    But not enough to cause issues or hinder your experience.
     
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    The term "CPU Bottleneck" is generally the most over used, hallow, and pointless term in gaming. CPU advancement has made such little strides in the past 5 years and I'm being conservative. The model numbers increase, the performance gains stay minimal. I still rock a 2600k at 4.2 and I've yet to ever see an iota of a reason to upgrade it yet for gaming purposes.
     
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  14. ramthegamer

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    Your chart says that there is minimal to negligible difference of 1 fps btw i5 and i7 paired with the r9
     
  15. Yxskaft

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    Those BF4 benchmarks are very misleading because they are from the single player mode. Multiplayer is much more demanding.
     

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    i5's dont bottleneck single cards. 4460 will be running 970 just fine. Hell, it would run even 980ti no problem.

    Op, upgrade and dont worry about it.
     
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    I agree. The CPU bottleneck will only occur if the CPU usage of the game maxes out without making full use of the video card. I slightly disagree that the term has been overused, probably more misrepresented. The bottlenecks occur not because of the CPU itself (unless it is a low end/old CPU to begin with), but poor programming and the neutering of PC game performance potential due to consoles. By neutering I mean Microsoft could have introduced DirectX 12 like scenario earlier, but why would they when it provides competition for their Xbox?

    Poor programming can be either truly poor programming, or the use of the CPU to do non-optimised Physx etc effects.

    So, to answer your question, no it won't be a bottleneck unless the game is 'less than optimised'.
     
  18. 0blivious

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    I tested my 970 with an i3 4160 recently, and also with my old i5 4670K. The average framerates were all very close to my i7 4790K and my i7 2600K.

    The biggest differences were in the low framerate spikes (only on demanding, AAA titles). This is where extra threads help and what the person above was referring to with "smoothness". The average framerates between my i3s, i5s and i7s look very similar but the lowest FPS numbers are quite different.

    Otherwise, the difference is negligible at 1080p.

    A 4460 will make a good gamer.
     
  19. Undying

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    When we are saying bottleneck i would refer to his CPU running at 3.2ghz, not 4 vs 8 threads and i5 vs i7. Below is a very useful thread to see what how 4thread cpu performs vs 8thread at the same clock.

    Basically there isnt any difference at all : http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=402869
     
  20. mbm

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    I believe it will bottleneck yes.

    I upgraded from i5-2500K (4800 mhz) to i7-4790K (4400 mhz)

    with my 2500K CPU usage was 100% and the GPU was not 100%
    after the upgrade my CPU usage is only 40-50% ang GPU usage is 100%
    and of course Frames are higher.
     
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