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Discussion in 'Games, Gaming & Game-demos' started by WhiteLightning, Jun 12, 2018.

  1. SSJBillClinton

    SSJBillClinton Master Guru

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    Not really sure what that has to do with the discussion, just because you own something it doesn't mean you have to defend it, but it's silly to not be excited about graphical advancements.
     
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    It's not luxury, it's just bragging for nothing. Sure all RTX 2080ti/Titan RTX owners are poor in comparison to the boss J.Huang. That should make them wonder about their lives. That tech at that price point is useless. Imagine 3080ti costing again 1200-1500$. PC 10 years ago could be built around 2500$~3000$, now you need 3500-4500$. All in all, people with minimal in life needs, gave the opinion to shareholders, that there is money floating around. The problem is, there isn't. Minority damages the majority. They prefer to sell 1000 RTX at 1500$ than 2000 RTX at 1000$. Enjoy your matrix.
     
  3. SSJBillClinton

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    Yeah we all just buy 2080Ti's so we can tell people we have them.
    Personally I haven't even installed mine, I feel the glow of self satisfaction that radiates from me from just owning one lights all my games as realistically as I need.
     
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    I have no regrets with my 2080. I use RTX when and where I can, and I turn it off if it hinders the game play (like BF5 for example). What exactly is the problem here?

    It absolutely does make the game look better. In Metro Exodus it was absolutely incredible how nicely it would change most environments. Anyone chasing realism (and potentially better atmosphere) in their games should be all for this advancement.

    I'm kind of going a little off path here, but I do wish the industry would look more into making AI better in games and also improving textures as well as pushing for ray/path tracing. Ray tracing seems to be all everyone is talking about.. It looks amazing and all, but it falls flat when it's on a bland texture and you definitely still lose your immersion when the AI is running into a wall or behaves awkwardly/too predictable. New console generation pushing to have dedicated ray tracing cores may come at the cost of less power towards the CPU and other things. I'm clearly just speculating, but we all know the diminishing returns of a console and that they usually need to keep them at a specific price range. Dedicated ray tracing cores are probably not cheap, AMD or not. This has implications on PC games as well obviously, as developers most likely won't invest in making the AI stronger for just PC if consoles are still limited in that regard.

    Here's hoping that I'm wrong. I just really want better AI in games (or at least better scripting/path-making).

    Also, my 2080 didn't cost me $1300. No one is bragging here. We just love tech and gaming :p
     

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    Yea exactly, my gpu was £950 when I got it. No one is bragging, people are just pissed off at getting crap on for owning a 2080ti.

    I don't use it if i need a high fps for multiplayer but all single player stuff its on.

    I thought the whole point of pc building and gaming was to go above what we need.
    We don't need watercooling and 4k hdr, But its fun thats the whole point.

    its the same people that would crap on someone for buying a Ferrari or Lamborghini
     
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    Happy with my lowly lil RTX 2070 Super. It runs RTX titles pretty well. Although I am still on 1080p, need that 27" 1440p upgrade ;)
     
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    The thing is.....2080ti price are taking the whole market prices UP.
    Maybe you can afford a 1500e dollars card to your hobby,but most of us CAN'T spend that mutch money on gaming.
    I know you people who can afford those expensive stuff dont give a fly F about others...
    Even when water gone have hight prices you still gone say i can afford it to clean my car....Poor world.
    my most expensice CG card was the 8800GTX 320mo FOR 350€
    Funny that the same guys crying about mining are now buying 1500e cards !
     
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    Look, I feel you. I completely understand and definitely don't want PC gaming to be more expensive than it is, personally.. The thing is, we are talking about the highest tier card. It's always been expensive, and now it also has a larger die size due to having additional tech cores (RT) added to it. The 2080 is a little more reasonably priced, and so is the 2070. Ray tracing is new technology so it's going to be more expensive at first. Look at the 2080 Super for example: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/rtx-2080-super/. The price is going down as the iterations come out.. $700 MSRP for a 2080 Super. You can get a 2070 for $500 right now also.. So the question really is, what makes you think the highest tier cards should be available to everyone? Also, why do you think, and I'll quote you here, "I know you people who can afford those expensive stuff dont give a fly F about others...", when we are talking about enthusiast PC building? Should we just not get a RTX card because someone else in the world thinks it's a little more expensive than it should be? We weighed the costs and decided it was still worth it. I still do..
    Do you have a problem with those of us who have expensive VR systems also? Should we all just put our interests down because others can't enjoy it also? We are all trying to enjoy our time on this planet and this is just one of the ways some of us get to do that. I don't really spend my money on anything else so I choose to spend it on gaming. It's our choice..

    One thing I've noticed in life is that most people will spend their money on their hobbies all the same. If it isn't pumping money into your sports car or Pokemon (or whatever lol), it's pumping money into clubs or some other expensive hobby or time waster. Who's right is it to give someone crap for spending a lot of money on their PCs? I understand you and others may have a tougher time out there, and I truly empathize and wish better for you all, but going on a technical forums where we discuss the latest and greatest to complain about others spending a few extra hundred on a top-tier level card that is paving the way towards what has been deemed by industry leaders as the "holy grail of graphics" (ray tracing in general) is just ridiculous.. especially when these cards are in no way a requirement at all..
     
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  9. SSJBillClinton

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    Gonna have to bite my tongue real fuckin hard on that one, chief.


    So... How about that Control game guys?
     
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    That is funny.Do not read the next post below.It is Trumprific trigger.

    Yeah but not fair comparison,You have an AMD card, it is just better than Nvidia card.
     

  11. Undying

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    Idk if thats is sarcasm but image clearly shows that. (i though you still running those 290's btw).
     
  12. gerardfraser

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    Nope I am running RTX 2080 on this computer taking RTX screenshots.What you did not know RTX was maxed out in the screenshot you compared.(Syranetic would like to disagree with you on the RTX thing :D)
    Not sarcasm, in my experience AMD has better picture quality out of the box.Yeah people will crap themselves as they had in the past but for me it is true.

    EDIT:I should say though I am running higher settings at 4K resolution than your screnshot,check out the hair.HA my screnshot was better at something.Go Nvidia Go FTW.:eek::rolleyes:;)
     
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    Lower resolution and with a combination of RIS it has some artifacting and you can clearly see it on the hair so you are right.
     
  14. S.T.A.R.A.C.

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    Exactly! These brainwashed Nvidiots don't understand that. Couple of years ago high end card was 700$, and now is 1200$ and above.
    Even worse thing is that they have bought this Nvidia fraud called RTX.
     
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    Guys, let's keep a sober tone no matter what we think about different companies, their associated technology and pricing.
     
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    boy called that jealousy angle ;p.

    maybe people could whip out their charity giving to prove how much they "care" about people or time they volunteered to work with others.

    but there have been studies done, people that stfu and do stuff give to charity, people that complain that others do not do enough, give f all to charity.

    and many rather just do than virtue signal how much on the net they "care" about others.
     
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  17. SSJBillClinton

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    I'm honestly just disappointed by the reactions of a good handful of people here, I thought this was an enthusiast forum, not a place to start name-calling over purchase decisions?

    If there was a card that could do RT and push frames as well as this one for cheaper, obviously we would buy that, but there's not.

    Grow up. Let's talk about Control.
     
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    Almost finished it too, it's been quite a ride and quite an astonishing game.
    Considering visuals nVidia Sharpening saved the day for sure.
     
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    Im also near the end now, enjoyed the game quite a bit. We knew that Remedy will deliver. After this i really hope they gather their thoughts and their resources and focus on continuation of Alan Wake.
     
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    I agree. I enjoyed the game too.
    I need to complete some side stuff still, but, I defeated all the bosses, so, just minor stuff left.
    I can't wait for the DLC's. Specially AWE, because it seems to be tied to Alan Wake. And I love that.
     

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