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  1. Party Poison

    Party Poison Maha Guru

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    I get what you mean.

    The one I was thinking of is DLSS 2X. I don't think anything uses it yet and I don't know if it back be used backwards with games that have regular DLSS when we get it
     
  2. emperorsfist

    emperorsfist Master Guru

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    You know, it's just a game. If you want it that badly, get it, but it's not like it's going anywhere, and neither are you. If you wait, you may get a version that actually works reasonably.
     
  3. Netherwind

    Netherwind Ancient Guru

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    Wow, now I can finally enjoy the game! Downloaded GFE and added sharpening (70%) which is a night and day difference compared to stock settings (DLSS + RT High). Most of the blur is gone and what's left is some noise here and there but I guess it is like it is. Played 3hrs yesterday and really enjoy the heck out of the game.

    Performance wise I had to create a custom OC curve which really isn't OC but more factory OC but with lower voltages. Clocks are pretty stable at 1890MHz and temps are at 68-70C with a custom fan curve.

    (I seriously need to repaste the GPU and I'm also thinking about testing the 400W BIOS for my card, although I'm a little bit scared of it.)
     
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  4. jmmy23

    jmmy23 Master Guru

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    I have GSYNC monitor and i see on 35-45 fps slowdowns . Or maybe i am too sensitive and for me its just too slow ,but for others not?

    So whats the point on GSYNC monitor??
    its on 1440P render RT HIGH


    On DLSS 960P image is blurred but i like it. Sharpening from nvidia i no using becausse i no like it too.

    One thing making me sad,that low res pixels image when during combat on long distance,like flying papers etc.
     

  5. Netherwind

    Netherwind Ancient Guru

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    You mean stuttering? Seems like many have that problem. G-sync can't help with that. What it should help smooth out is low FPS but 35 is quite low already so maybe the effect won't be visible there.
     
  6. Syranetic

    Syranetic Master Guru

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    Not sure why you don't like DLSS @ 1080P, looks much better than 960P to me and with the sharpening filter it's perfect. FPS is 60-70 and with the flow control exception posted in this thread it has completely removed the stutter I was getting.

    With heavy fights it can dip to high 50s but considering the visual quality I am satisfied.
     
  7. jmmy23

    jmmy23 Master Guru

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    I have 1440P monitor,max is 960 DLSS


    i see on smoke,papers,enemies from distance just a low res pixels. On 1440P its clean.
     
  8. Noisiv

    Noisiv Ancient Guru

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    Oh.. for $@#(*

    Start Control. Go to Options -> Display.

    1. Set Nvidia DLSS to "OFF"
    2. Choose Quality Preset "High"
    3. Ray Tracing Preset to "OFF"
    4. Turn off SSAO
    5. Set Screen Space Reflection Quality to "OFF"
    6. Global Reflections to "OFF" or "Medium"
    7. MSAA to "OFF"
    8. Ray Tracing Preset to "HIGH"
    9. Set Nvidia DLSS to "ON"
    10. Chose 960p under Render Resolution

    Dont touch anything else.
    Exit the game and open render.ini.

    In line 6 change 1706 to 1920
    In line 7 change 960 to 1080
    Save the file and close it.

    Launch the game. Go to Options -> Display, but don't touch anything!
    Under Render Resolution you should see 1920x1080 meaning that now you have 1080p DLSS, originally unavailable for 2560x1440 monitors. /done



    PS
    According to Nvidia Ray Tracing reflection replaces 99% of Global Reflection and then some(!), and it completely replaces SS reflections. As already said NVIDIA's guide stops short from recommending GR to OFF, but imho if something from GR is not replaced by RT reflections, it's some distant blob that's hardly worth keeping anway.

    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/control-graphics-and-performance-guide/

    Bear in mind, Screen Space Reflections cost 11 frames per second on High, and the supplementary Global Reflectionscost 17 frames per second to enable in areas with reflective metals. So, when you consider their combined cost, and the fact that Ray-Traced Reflections is doing 99% of their work at a far higher level of detail, and applying that work to far more of each scene, the performance of Ray-Traced Reflections is in fact comparatively low.

    With ray tracing we can fix this, because unlike screen space techniques that can only reflect what’s on screen, ray-traced reflections incorporate the entire scene around the character and camera, and can accurately represent objects outside and facing away from the camera's view. This enables 360 degrees of reflectivity, as well the reflection of off-screen and occluded detail. And because rays reach most game elements, virtually everything can receive reflections or be reflected onto other objects and surfaces, creating lifelike scenes that were previously impossible to render
     
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  9. jmmy23

    jmmy23 Master Guru

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    Hey really appreciate it. But why turning off all details on beggining? Also how i compare screen from normal 1080P render vs 1080P DLSS. It will reset when i change?And again .ini?
     
  10. Noisiv

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    In order to reset your settings and so you can set SS reflections to OFF.
    Additionally I can barely make sense from your reports, so we need to make sure you have fixed and sane settings ;)
     

  11. jmmy23

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    Can i just edit .ini without changing rest details? Just tick DLSS exit game and edit renderer?
     
  12. Evileh

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    Or just follow the instructions that takes less time that it does for you to go pee.
     
  13. jmmy23

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    ok i will try just ask because nobody try it forcing DLSS 1080P on native 1440P ;)
     
  14. Evileh

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    That's what we've all been doing though lol
     
  15. gerardfraser

    gerardfraser Ancient Guru

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    Part of a post I did back in 2015 this is in no way picking on sew333/litwicki22/jimmy23/SewerynLitwicki /mgty23 just need a little patience to help him out.
    I think noise gave you some good advice ,you should give it a shot.I think you should accept that the game has some problems but still is fun.Set the setting to where you can have 60FPS and wait for Remedy and Nvidia to provide new DLSS resolutions for your monitor ,so in a couple weeks you might be able to run 2560x1440 Native with new DLSS resolution scale at 2560x1440.
    Your 9900K and 2080Ti does not mean all games will run 60FPS even on a 2560x1440 Monitor.
     

  16. Syranetic

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    If you use DSR like I said before you can do 4K @ 1080P DLSS, which is exactly what I use and I have a 1440P monitor too. Quality is noticeably better than 960P and performance is good. Not sure what issues you are having with that setup but it's perfect for me. 960P is too low resoluition for my tastes.
     
  17. sertopico

    sertopico Maha Guru

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    Guys could you please suggest me a good tool to take screenshots with free cam? For Control I mean. Thank you!
     
  18. XenthorX

    XenthorX Ancient Guru

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    There's an upcoming patch adding a photo mode.
    Otherwise if you check the reddit of the Control game, there's some hack to access a debug cam, a bit tedious but if you're really committed... ^^
     
  19. sertopico

    sertopico Maha Guru

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    Thanks man. No, I am not committed at all lol but I'll have a look. :D

    edit: I cannot find any guide about it. :/
     
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  20. jmmy23

    jmmy23 Master Guru

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    Hello. So yeah i tried DSR to 4K and in game DLSS 1080P.
    But i think its broken. Because 1080P DLSS its looking like 720P or worst.
    Something wrong i made?

    Nvidia PANEL DSR-SMOOTHNESS 33% or tried 0%.
    DSR-2.25 native. Res was on desktop was blurred also on 4k.

    But i like said in game resolution 4K and DLSS 1080P was broken and looking worst.
     

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