Hi, I am upgrading my pc and am seriously considering buying a Phenom 9500. I already order a set of 2x2Gb OCZ ReaperX PC2-6400 4-4-3-15 memory. I will replace the cpu with a black edition phenom the same time as I update to a 9800gtx in april. The board will be a Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe. I did some research on the penlyn and phenom and here is the pros of each. Pros for Q9450 Faster than Phenom 45nm great overclocker Pros for P9500 Native quad core core level power management Support AMD to make sure they stay in the market. Potensial of killing a penlyn after a few bios updates and steppings. Something new to play with rather than buying a new lga775 board (915,955,P965,680i and now a x38). I am a bit fed up with the same stuff over again. Do you think a Swiftech H20-220 Apex Ultra kit will be fine for a phenom? Is there anybody on this forum with a phenom?