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Confirmed: Core i9 CPU Series will get soldered heatspreader

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Aug 16, 2018.

  1. nz3777

    nz3777 Ancient Guru

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    Solderd is better from what I read no? obviously since they are switching back there has to be valid reason?
     
  2. moaka

    moaka Master Guru

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    Look at Guru3d review ? ryzen 2990WX game mode ( intel is better in game for sure )
     
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  3. BuildeR2

    BuildeR2 Ancient Guru

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    Is this in fact the case? I'm legitimately asking if anybody knows, since I vaguely recall watching an Intel demonstration where they mentioned that the 9xxx series would have hardware fixes for these kinds of things.
     
  4. nz3777

    nz3777 Ancient Guru

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    Yes Intel will get more fps for sure agreed but that thing is a MOnster 32/64 beast never meant for gaming anyway,its cool you can disable cores and run as 8/16
     

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    Feels bad buying 2700x, then 9900k got solder, and 2700x got worthless...

    XD
     
  6. anub1s18

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    if i had to hazard a guess i'd guess that reason would be 8 core's at 4.6Ghz was trying to throttle itself thx to poor thermal conductivity to the IHS via the toothpaste.
     
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    Your post looks stupid. There were intel's 8C/16T before i9-9900k and even with toothpaste they did clock reasonably well. And if anything, 9900k will make 2700X look more attractive for those who actually use those cores.
    You know, 20% Higher clock on all cores of 9900k for 50% higher price.

    Secondly, you have some temporal disorder:
    "9900k got solder" - no it did not, it will likely get it. But it is unreleased product.

    It is like stating that since your cousin's children will be better than you, you are already worthless before they are even born.
     
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    sverek Ancient Guru

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    I just can't see how 9900K would cost only $450 on release day.
    Intel really have to fab a lot of them until release date, otherwise there will shortages and price no where near expected $450.
    If Intel manage to fab lots of them, I shall question the quality of the chips and overclock-ability on all 8 cores.

    Anyway, as a consumer I only wish the best to Intel. Maybe Zen2 wouldn't single handily dominate the CPU market.
    Interesting times ahead!

    @nizzen, please apply the ice on the burn :D
     
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  9. D1stRU3T0R

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    Is this the new AMD FX 9590 ?
     
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    sverek Ancient Guru

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    Desperation wise, yes.
     

  11. RealNC

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    Remember Sandy Bridge? Like the 2500K, 2600K and 2700K? And how people were able to do crazy overclocks on them, or how going from 3.3GHz to 4.3GHz (a full GHz) was even considered a "normal" overclock and you could do it on air cooling? Sandy Bridge was the last CPU from Intel to use solder. After that, these overclocks became more difficult to do as the temperatures got out of control.

    Well, that was because Sandy Bridge was the last CPU from Intel to use solder. So yeah, it is a very big deal. The question now is if Intel is going to do something to inhibit overclocking somewhat in other ways.
     
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  12. Jagman

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    I think they had to use solder to keep the temps down and the frequencies at what people would expect (or demand even). Will be a hit for sure but will be way out of my price range, I'm waiting for Zen 2 (Ryzen 3xxx).
     
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    If this is true, it only took intel what... 6 years to fix the screw up in the first place?!
     
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    They do not risk another Sandy. As there is no longer huge OC headroom even with direct-die cooling.
     
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    Screw Up ? Nooo it was Screw YOUUU DOWN clockers :)
    Any way as an person that was always on the green team for the past 18 years not because i love them or i'm a big fan of them but pure performance per $ (Duron 600 , Duron 1200 , 40$ Athlon XP 1700+ @ 2.2GHZ in 2002 ,20$ sec hand Athlon 64 X2 s939 the big one with 1MB L2 per core @ 2.9GHZ aand my last and current one 90$ sec hand Phenom X4 955 @ modest 3.4GHz for 8 years ) i can say is bullshit that a 16GB of RAM cost almost as much as a 6 core CPU :O

    Any way obviously the upcoming i9 will smack down the 2700x in any direction but are u really all complaining kiddies here gonna give your kidney for it ? How many of you really need it ? It won't be much faster than 8600K in games ,Adobe After Effects don't really see big difference between 8600K and 8700K and Adobe Premiere and the 3D tools like 3DS Max , Maya and their renders like V-Ray really love 2950x and beyond so why would you even consider an overpriced 8 core part from Intel ?
    Intel i9 8 core parts are doomed from the beginning to cost almost as much as 12 core Ryzen and being slower than it real multi threaded working environment , about games it will be just useless compared to 8600K and 8700K for the price performance difference.

    9 year old Phenom X4 here playing WoT all high on 280x with V-Sync on 1280x1024 which is still with 389120 screen pixels more on my old 17" 4:3 screens compared to the stupid game benchmarks i see at 1280×720 when reviewing a CPU in 2018.

    Bored skater flip and out.
     

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    There is only one reason I can think of that Intel is dropping paste:

    1) AMD

    "Cries of Intel customers" have long been ignored...;)


    On the contrary, for QHD resolutions and up, GPU-limited, the difference if there is one is so slight a user would never even perceive it. I'm not going to mention what will happen when game engines are optimizing as well for Ryzen as they have been doing a long time for Intel...;)
     
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    Dear AMD,

    Thank you for Ryzen and forcing Intel to release better product.

    9900k is going to be the best CPU ever released. 8/16 with improved single core performance, awesome overclocking, probably better temperatures and one more thing...Do you guys realize that Intel slide show says 40 PCIe? That means it will allow for two full 16x PCIE 3.0 slots!!!!

    Can't wait to buy this CPU!
     
  18. Robbo9999

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    To answer your last bit there, I got a delidded with liquid metal 6700K with NH-D14. Overclocked to 4.7 Ghz @1.4V, when running OCCT at about 120-140W CPU Package Power (as shown in HWInfo Sensors), it runs in the mid 60's at a room temperature of 20 degC, with the NH-D14 fans running on minimum RPM using the low noise adapter. Delidding reduced temperatures by 13 degC.

    I've since dropped my CPU overclock to 4.6Ghz @1.35V though, because my overclock became unstable after 1.5yrs - I think my CPU was slowly degrading at 1.4V.
     
  19. Fox2232

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    That QHD statement applies to 1080Ti. That's tiny minority. Below that and with decent game details even 1080p performance is almost same, same or fps is far above screen's refresh rate.
     
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    Well, if you're sticking to 60Hz displays, then yeah. But who does that :p
     

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