Cinebench R20 results show that the Core i9-12900K beats the Ryzen 9 5950X

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  1. waltc3

    waltc3 Maha Guru

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    Can someone provide a link from Intel officially setting Nov 4 as the ship/availability date? I'd love to see it if Intel has actually announced it--as that is less than 30 days away it makes Nov 4 seem unlikely. What is keeping Intel from announcing general availabilty on Nov 4, if that is the case? How about motherboard shipping dates, etc? The 15% throughput for Zen3 that AMD says will come with the V-cache stacking would put current Zen 3 CPUs @ ~750 single-thread scores--and we aren't talking about Zen 4, yet, either. Should be interesting to see this matchup...;)
     
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    To be fair, my 4 years old 7980xe has almost the same Cinebench score as my 5950x. It's scoring 15500 points in Port Royal. Yes it's a gputest, but anyway it's nice.
     
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  3. TLD LARS

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    To be fair a complete 7980xe pc would cost around 3 times as much to reach the same Cinebech score as a complete 5950x pc would, so a lot has still happened in the CPU world since the 7980xe was born.

    Port Royal: a stock Ryzen 5600x at max CPU load of 50% is able to keep a 3090 busy at 97-100% GPU load and score 12.000 points on a 350W GPU bios.
    Port Royal is 90% GPU dependent, so I do not even think you can spot a difference if you disable 10-12 cores on your 7980xe and keep the rest of them clocked the same.
     
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    nizzen Ancient Guru

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    7980xe cost about 60% the 5950x at ebay ;)
     

  5. Falkentyne

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    The release date was actually rumored to have been moved up TO November 4th from later.
    Maybe issues with component supply again? (DDR5 supply issues, substrates? who knows? DDR5 just hit Newegg for sale today from Geil).
     
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    I got the same feeling sometimes.
    I'm excited and happy that performance is there as expected.
    On the other had, I kind of don't want AMD to get obliterated so bad, maybe because of the history when Intel was dominating and market monopoly/prices blah blah.
    On the 3rd hand, AMD proved to be just as greedy when they had better chips so ya, I dunno ...
     
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  7. tsunami231

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    cpu wattage i getting to outrageous just like gpu, but damn those cpu temps 108c? was he using single fan to cool that thing? i have problem with my CPU going past 70c i would have heart attack i saw new cpu doing that
     
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    It was a floating heatsink. No mounting kits for 1700...
     
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  9. kakiharaFRS

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    I want to see the intel cpu being on top of 1080p cpu limited games, don't care about nothing else, multicore ryzen can't be beat and intel isn't even trying with it's real+idle cores
     
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    This isn't a fair benchmark due to fact the AMD's L3 cache is broken on the released version of Windows 11 and has mention in my earlier post the R9-5950X is almost a year old.
     

  11. mackintosh

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    It's only a year old.
     
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    It's not, but just adding more performance without thinking of efficiency isn't great either. 250W for the CPU package is double that of the 5950X using all cores: https://www.anandtech.com/show/1621...e-review-5950x-5900x-5800x-and-5700x-tested/8. Looking forward to seeing actual benchmarks without any OC features turned on!
     
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    Fair?
    Maybe wait for "7950x" LOL
     
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    It's kinda funny we have soo many synth benchmarks leaks yet gaming leaks are close to zero . Why ?
     
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    Probably because those with access to these parts couldn't care less about gaming benchmarks.
     

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    The good news is, it seems Intel has finally provided realistic TDP numbers, rather than the nearly useless numbers they have provided in the past. The bad news is, that wattage is a bit alarming, for 8 P-cores. If the 8 E-cores were also under full load, that doesn't speak well of how efficient they are. Though, I suppose that would explain why Intel is charging roughly $50 per E-core, because they otherwise seem to be more focused on performance. Perhaps PCIe 5.0 or DDR5 causes more power draw, but if that's the case then this is bad news for laptops.
    ~250W in and of itself is a reasonable number for a flagship CPU, but again... it's just 8 performance cores. If it were 16 performance cores then I'd be like "oh ok, sounds pretty good" and move on. If this were still 14nm I'd say "that wattage makes sense".

    The 5950X also has dual-channel memory, which would cripple its performance quite a bit.
     
  17. TLD LARS

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    Sending 900€ of to Ebay land to receive a 4 year old CPU, Mainboard and waterblock and then cross your fingers that it is even stable anymore or that it is not full of stab marks from a delid or something.

    You are a lot braver then me.
     
  18. Makaveli

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    5800X doesn't do 225 watts on this test.

    I only hit 133watts with PBO on when I test it.
     
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  19. SirkoZ

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    Indeed, thanks for the report.
    But shorely we're just AMD fanboys here, the fact I called it
    doesn't mean a thing.
    Wintel continues to disappoint and it's not even out of the gate, but what can we expect? So many transistors (= just current valves) on such a large node cannot run cool. AMD clearly does have the process advantage.
     
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  20. tty8k

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    If yours only goes to 133W then it must be undervolted and at lower multiplier all core.
    Make sure you only select FPU test from the options.
     

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