chilly enough?

no frade not, all i know is its noisy lol. which is useless

 

You can make a waterchiller, and its probably horribally inefficent.

 

has any1 else here got a waterchiller they made? post some screenys if u do...

 

would this work for a chiller? ovastily i dnt know how the piping works for the compressor and stuff but ill learn that later..just really want to know if thats the right principle?

 

WOO! got the compressor running! and ive got frost!





sorry 56k'ers

 

NICE ... don't worry about the pics ... keep em comming! ... nice little frosties there ... guess that answere's a few questions about the integrity of the closed/refig part of the system ...

So you going to tell us? or keep us all in suspence as to how you got it up and running?

Also guys like Chicken ... Hanshot ... are the big assets now! ... as I think they both have gone through several Metamorphosis' of a system @ this stage

 

i need some advice with the copper pipes, im currently taking it all to bits,but i dont want to open the loop. so should i be able to bend the pipes? so i can use them in its new arrangement?

i got it up and running, after chatting with an electrician then i just wired a plug to the compressor. straight to it the whole 230v lol i did stand back when i turned it on tho lmao

 

BIG PROBLEM!


i need the rads almost next to the compressor! the pipes are well too long and i DONT want to cut them unless i absolutly have too.

 

sorry i might sound stupid however cant u put the thing on its side? like that u can have the fans mounted etc

 

thats not a bad idea, but i dnt know if it would actaully work as well..and would be huge on the floor lol

 

well u can start thinking about welding then cut of the pipes but first make the most compact design possible and clean up the area would make it nicer.

 

You don't want the compressor on its side.

 

Ditto! ... quite correct ... also you'll need to be extremely careful bending the pipes ... actually I don't recommend it unless it's minor adjustments ... and/or your "pipe fitter"/plumber/welder/brazer friend is really willing to help alot.

I initially invisioned you setting up a simple ambient air chiller type system ... but if your friend is willing to cut/bend/braze/weld ... then I guess you could look into breaching the closed sytem and all kinds of options come into play. Also consider the costs to "re-charge" the system as here in the states it's now required by a "certified" tech ... although fairly simple it has become a bit more of a hassel since the whole political freon debacle ... another story/rant ...

Edit: I'm still a bit puzzled how you managed to just "plug-in" 220v in a std household current? ... sounds like you must have found a convenient 220v line as they are not easily accessible in typical American homes! ... from the pics looks like you may be in the ??? ... satillo tile ... laundry rooom?

 

he lives in the UK standard voltage is 220v

sorry bout putting it on its side i didnt know

 

My apologies!!! Honestly didn't know ... Tail between my legs and lookin' pretty foolish ... well I tried

 

well Tomcatv, i am up for the whole "rip and stick" idea (open up the loop) but i would need some advice as to how to go about refilling it and such? if you up for teaching, ill learn lol.

lol the 220v thing, yea here in the uk we get a nice 230V straigh from the wall. yea im constucting in the kitchen atm btw lmao im not allowed to turn it on in the garage, cuz it will blow the fuses..in the house it will just knock the swtich off if anything goes wrong, plus its warmer in the kitchen and the bisucit tins in arms reach! lol

 

Certainly Not to discourage you but to re-interate Hanshot above you're being pretty vague with:

1) What is your end goal ... expectations?

You need a more specific plan to tap in to the resources here and more specific/technical questions ... we all would surely like to contribute but ... it's not a simple as Rip 'n Stick ...

2) What is your level of commitment to time/money/overall skills needed?

The level/expertise needed to take this project to a phase change type working end product might be compared to a mid level bachelors/low level masters degree semester project ... it's really fairly simple if you have a mechanical engineering background and average proficiency with a couple of "tool" systems but can get complicated in a hurry without some onsight help! ... that's why a simple single stage phase change cooling unit retails for around 800$ and up ... you might compare it to an Alienware gaming computer ... your paying a premium for troubleshooting and some engineering. But we all know with a little education/research/trial 'n error it's far more rewarding/less expensive to do it ourselves.

So time for you to make a plan and Google is your biggest friend ... man if that was around when I was your age:dave: ...
are you going to start with a simplier ambient air-chiller ... maybe an H2o reservoir chiller ... or knock off a phase change unit ... whatever it is have fun with it, I know you will ... put a few links below to maybe help you define more clearly your mission statement ...

Basic single stage explanation of "Phase Change" cooling
http://www.pimprig.com/giveaway/holidaygiveaway05.html

Basic breakdown of the Prometeia ECT Mach I & II 900$ system
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1793

Vapochill - lots of good picture's ... and idea's how complicated the Evaporator MAY be ...
http://www.systemcooling.com/vapochill_ls-01.html

 

OMG! finaly stuff i can read to help me understand lol. as far as my engineering background entails, i love the stuff..lol just finished a rebiuld of an old mini not to mention i pick this kinda thing up quickly.

my mission statement :
convert an old dehumidfyer into a chiller unit for a watercooling system.

ill read all that stuff now and get back to you with some more info shortly..

 

i was looking on anohter forum, and found the fatest collection i have ever seen for phase change information: (ctrl+v)

This is a collection of phase change guides.

These are from LardArse aka Shamina

Refrigeration Basics 1
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=713&s=1

Refrigeration Basics 2
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=714&s=1

Regasing a Prometiea/Vapochill
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=716&s=1

Insulation guide
http://wwww.vr-zone.com/?i=230&s=1

Mounting a Prommie onto the GPU
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=172&s=1

Dual Cascade Cooler
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=618&s=1

Dual-Evaporator Cooler
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=1227&s=1

Mounting Hole database for the convenience of people DIYing evaps oradapting Vapochills to fit the new sockets. Includes Graphics cards aswell.
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=1356&s=1

Making a cheap and simple evaporator housing.
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=1627&s=1

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Dabit - A pioneer of phase-change. He was also one of the first to build a cascade for computer aplication.

Check out his site

http://www.icecoldcomputing.com/

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Bowman - Extreme phase-change. While building a dd system you will prolly be using one of his ideas b/c its become the standard.

Some basics phase-change system

http://phase-change.com/index.php?a...es&id=21&page=1

Quick guide on condensation

http://phase-change.com/index.php?a...es&id=25&page=1

Building a DD system

http://phase-change.com/index.php?a...es&id=23&page=1

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Marci and Fliptone (extreme overclockers/modders)

Regassing a Prommy

http://overclockers.com/tips1146/
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Lots of info on Phase-Change + how to build a chiller

http://overclockers.com/tips1032/

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Extras

How to braze

http://www.jwharris.com/jwref/procs/

Refrigerants

http://www.refron.com/InfoCenter/Te...ig_Data_Sum.pdf

Cheap Vacuum Pump

http://www.belljar.net/refrig.htm

Refrigeration Basics

http://www.refrigerationbasics.com

Cpu Watt Calc

http://www.benchtest.com/calc.html

Refrigeration parts.

www.rparts.com

thank you JSU who ever you are!!!

 

WoW ... you do catch on FAST ... who says you can't do research!!!

Now get to designing that new reservoir (or mod a prebuilt) figure out the tube diameters = degress -celcius/power consuption, temp sensors, ... if your going to "breach" the "loop" or "scab" on ... your on your way!!!

Were you just messin' with us earlier??? ... or do we have a Doogie Howser on our hands ...