Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Xzibit, Oct 19, 2010.
No, that was 3DMark Vantage score(Extreme preset)
What about 3DMark 11 score? I never seen them...
Not to any true enthusiast. You're just being a fanboy if you say so.
No one said the GTX295 was the fastest single card on the market, everyone said it was the fastest dual GPU solution...but now that it's on the other foot, ATi fanboys show their false pride.
The GTX295 was 2 PCB's stuck together wasn't it? that's probably why. Anyway to me the 295 was the fastest card at the time.
False pride? Whatever, I would love Nvidia to come out with a dual core card so I could go back to the Nvidia camp.
5970 presents more fps on screen but the gameplay is not as smooth as gtx580 at lower framerate.
I switched from a 5970 so I know what I'm telling.
You are probably right as 30 fps on a dual will have more input lag than 30 fps on a single. But I have not seen that for my self as both cards are designed for 60fps+
But how often do you see 30 fps on either of those? The only game I can think of is Metro.
I really depends on the game. metro 2033 didn't stutter much even with low frames. But Crysis for example is a mess, the mouse stutters a lot without the mouse smoothing option. GTAIV also runs much better now with all settings maxed.
it was the same with 295gtx, dunno if you remember but there was this one troll going on and on about 295gtx, he got banned eventually..
he basically said what you just said about 5970, but back then it was about 295gtx vs 5870 and that 295gtx is the single fastest gpu bs...
but yea 2gpus vs 1 isn't fair to compare anyway.. even if its single pcb and he keep saying its the fastest SINGLE gpu, plus ignoring the fact that there are 2gpus on it..
It all depends on price. If AMD can release a video card that beats the 580 by a massive margin but don't price it 2x580 it'll still be a magnificent winner. This is where AMD shine, nVidia create the fastest single GPU card, whereas AMD create fastest price/performance dual GPU card. As long as they provide support for these dual GPU cards (which neither nVidia nor AMD do) it'll be amazing.
You lot can go on and on about performance and synthetic benchmarks but Vantage nor 3DMark 11 mean anything, as the majority of the world only care about price, and that includes most gamers with high-end systems.
Cayman XT / 6970:
24 clusters * 16 SIMD * VLiW4 = 1536 SPs
24 clusters * 4 TMUs = 96 TMUs
32 ROPs (upgraded compared to Evergreen)
core clock 880MHz, 5.5 Memory@256bit
Cayman PRO / 6950:
22 clusters * 16 SIMD * VLiW4 = 1408 SPs
22 clusters * 4 TMUs = 88 TMUs
core clock 800MHz, 5.0 Memory@256bit
HD6970 => ~GTX570 and prices will not be much higher than 570.
Forgive me guys, it's 1408 not 1480
you sure? that looks kinda weak:frown:
I see lots of GTX580's flying of the shelves this xmas. The only card ATI have that is worth anything is the 6990.
What can be seen cannot be unseen , guys Cayman HD6970-XT is ~30% faster than HD5870 and ~20% slower than 580GTX , those are real numbers and saw with my own eyes the benchmarks and clocks and the whole thing , and sorry i cannot tell you more , just believe what im saying its nothing but the truth and i have no need to lie ,im dissapointed in what i just saw a few minutes ago. Well 580GTX here i come :/
true, but i heard that most reviewers received low-speed 6970's - these are suppose to be ~20% slower than 580gtx, well what ever low-speed means..and that the final will be faster than this low-speed model.
^ I really doubt they would do that
I don't understand why ATI did not build on the great success of the 5000 series and aim for the top again. Instead they are relegated to the usual budget market for price/perf.
Meh, the only saving grace could be the 6990 as Nvidia have nothing to counter that.
Hope dies last. I like that.
what the low-speed part?
you want to see proof? one reviewer here posted a pic, with 12th dec on it; looks like its possible now past 12th, otherwise he would broke nda..