Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon Drivers Section' started by homberg, Mar 6, 2008.
What about AGP? Works?
Still no Support for HD3850 AGP which is really just freaking awful. But since the HD3850 AGP is really not an officially Product from ATI from what I heard the will be no official Driver support for it in the future also.
Right now I use the PowerColor 8.2 Drivers they are newer than the ones from the Sapphire CD (8.1), are complete with AVIVO, CCC and Smartgart and run better.
We will have to wait until Sapphire (or another HD3850 AGP manufacturer) releases their 8.3 Drivers Set for AGP.
No drivers for 3850 AGP on PowerColor pages ??
You can get them at their FTP site:
But you must be very patient the Download is extremely slow
ok, thx...but this from Sapphire work fine for me
it doesnt officially support it but i force installed it and everything is working fine
For me it works like a charm. On my ATI 1950Pro (still....) I got in 3DMark06 5166 points (~4900 before with 8.1) and on Vista 32bit 5090 (~4890 with 8.1). I like this Hydra Vision stuff on Vista, would be better to be integrated also in drivers for XP like in Vista. Install was without a problem.
About the story with 3850/AGP I fopund that ****in stupid:3eyes:. I wait to see a real benchmark of those cards with supported drivers (wait also for HIS to make a move before buy:infinity and hope it will be as soon an possible.
so far so good with this driver set (finally).
although the last 2 drivers WORKED with d3d, i had a BSOD memory crash while playing d3d games, especially online.
Now i haven't yet tried the online gaming, i played ut2k4 for about 40 min without any issue.
yey seems we AGP owners finally have something that works
I am not with you.
8.3 still causes BSOD with looping audio but takes a little longer to reproduce with Oblivion now. Before it took 5 seconds and now I have to wait till (in-game) daylight to reproduce it.
With Hellgate: London I can reproduce it just as quickly as before. You only need to create a new character of class "Summoner" and after 5 seconds while the character animation runs the game crashes (BSOD with looping audio).
So, I would say that nothing has happened in the AGP department.
If I do not see a change then my next card will be Nvidia. Actually, I cannot wait to buy me a new card and to leave this mess behind.
Now I am going back to Omega drivers again. They do work.
And not to forget: send feedback to the ATI Catastrophe Crew.
I also changed AGP from 8X to 4X, FastWrites to OFF, and lots of other BIOS values to AUTO and still get BSODs with 8.3. My hardware runs stable for quite a while but you never know. Still, it crashes. Very sad.
This is interesting:
Previously, 737-31625 offered the 8.1 Hotfix and for XP 32Bit this was a file called: xp32_8.451.4_57941.exe
Now, with the release notes of 8.3 there is a 737-31542 and a 8.3 Hotfix with a file called: xp32_8-471-57941.exe
Anyone willing to volunteer in testing what this 8.3 Hotfix does??? I had enough for a day.
Presumably it's a driver set that will detect the AGP variants of those cards and install the 8.3 drivers instead of the 8.1 set?
the 8.3 hotfix is for agp cards not woking with directx
Go amd/ati site and search 8.3 hotfix for full explanation.
Well, I have read both fix descriptions and they say the same only that one fix is now for 8.3. I had assumed that the fix for 8.1 went into 8.2 or 8.3 but if there is a "8.3 hotfix" then this can only mean that the fix is not part of the official 8.3.
Did you get that?
Because I will be going to bed now but people in other parts of the world might be getting up it should be possible to find a volunteer? Preferably one that has a problem with AGP and not just with this thread ;-)
Oh, and do not think you do not have a problem with this thread. Chances are you just do not know about it. Good night! *lol*
its aite so far, i cant see any fps increases or decreases, but my cod4 closes down more often now... cant guarantee the driver is the source tho
I take back most of the nasty things I have said about ATI's drivers for AGP, seen as there is a hotfix, then that is as good as official acknowledgement as far as I am concerned.
here's a link to the hotfix.
I might just get one of these HD3850AGP cards now!
The only issue with the 8.3 hotfix is that it's missing the CCC, but I actually figured out a way to install it that 95% works. I started with the older CCC uninstalled and ran the setup for the Powercolor Cat 8.2 package which will correctly detect my card and offer to install the CCC. I went through the process until it asks me which components I want to install, and then I deleted the CCC folder out of the Packages directory and pasted in the folder from the standalone 8.3 CCC package from ATi and continued. Amazingly, it installed and ran without error so I can finally enjoy the new GPU scaling/de-noise/etc. features.
The only snag is that since there's a new folder and MSI for Hydravision, which (obviously) wasn't a part of 8.2, that part doesn't get installed as far as I can tell. I assume it would show up as a part of the CCC or maybe in the start menu somewhere, but I don't see it. There may be some other stuff I could move around to make the program be able to look for and install it but that's really on the backburner right now. I'm happy with this even if Sapphire or whoever never actually repackages the 8.3 with the CCC.
You can download all components separately, too. Search ATIs download pages.
I know you can, but they don't install correctly if they don't detect compatible hardware, and my card falls into the "incompatible" section even though it's technically compatible.
I take it back tried BF2142 today got instant BSOD yey.
going to try sapphire 8.3 drivers then perhaps the 8.3 hotfix, well maybe tomorrow