Can the ASUS ROG Strix RX 6800 XT boost beyond 2500 MHz?

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Had to wait awhile but at least now there will be competition for Nvidia across the stack. Those clock speeds with any refinement for the next 7000 series could be quite something
     
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    Just two more days for the announcement. Hopefully, availability and reviews won't be too long after.
     
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    If AMD revives the ATI brand like in the olden days, it could probably place back AMD RADEON ATI back on being the market leader.
    Anyways the AMD 6800XT ,6700XT and even 6900XT if they are refined are going to hurt NVIDIA big time, if availibility is there, plus big performance in rasterisation.
    The only thing missing is that sweet Ray Traycing and IA stuff that AMD might have under the table still hidden to compete against NVIDIA.
     

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    Clocks are free performance for the manufacturer, as long as the power consumption (heat generation) allows it. It's how Intel, using the dusty old Core architecture, could keep beating AMD's modern Zen architecture for so long, at least in games. It's kind of interesting that Nvidia, for now, seems to have abandoned the clocks approach and instead chose to make bigger chips. Perhaps it's thanks to being able to sell the card, no matter how expensive they are. AMD is the underdog, struggling to sell GPUs, so if they can match the competition through the power of high clocks, it's a huge win for AMD, allowing them to make profit despite less units sold.
     
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    fyi the AMD cards will have roughly the same amount of watts than the Nvidias so don't expect "magically" cooler cards amd talks about gpu only watts not total watts like nvidia (more honest) does the 6900xt is rumoured to be 355 watts overall
    (my current 1080ti reaches 320+ watts quite often so I know how it's like)

    another of the weird things you see in PC hardware world but that doesn't exist in the car world : people expect more power for less consumption, it's not happening
    Linus even has to make a video saying "you won't be able to put a 3090 in a small form factor"
    ...noooo you think ? user who can easily see 840+ watts @PSU on his own PC and has upgraded in less than one year from 1x360mm rad to 2x then 3x >< (rule of thumb for custom loop is easy under load liquid shouldn't be higher than 35°C or as close as you can, at idle should be <30°C that way your idle stays close to room temp and under load it won't abusively heat your room, 40°C+ is a failure rethink your loop or go air cooling it's not working properly)
     
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    I nearly spilt milk through my nose, reading that. :)
     
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    That happens a lot in CPUs and GPUs. Just an ez CPU example. Less consumption, more power.

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    It wont happen on the same gen CPU/GPU, BUT we still dont know what AMD can bring to the table.
     

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    That's ridiculous. I doubt even the fake Linus would back up that claim. You must have misunderstood it.

    Also, it's not even true for the cars! There are differences between them, especially old and knew ones. You can also get the same power for less consumption by using a turbo vs not using a turbo. If you throw in a hybrid system, you get a lot more power (especially for short bursts) with minimal increase in consumption.
     
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    Isn´t this a question of tradeoffs??? You can only have higher clocks or higher chips, both approaches have positive and negative aspects, it´s a question of choosing one of them and move along. And we can´t forget the separate tensor and RT cores Nvidia puts on their cards.
     

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    We will see if AMD will talk tbp/tgp this time.
     
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    enough ppl that are able to gain "performance" by undervolting,
    no matter if gpu or cpus...

    or lets use a car example:
    toyota prius has ~130HP, ~100g/km emissions and gets about 67mpg

    porsche 918 has +880HP, ~80g/km emissions, also 67mpg,
    while 2-6 times the performance of the prius.
     
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    moral to the story is everyone should drive a $1.5m sports car to save the planet :D
     
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    hey, we werent talking about cost/value :D
    especially since thats in the eye of the beholder (and the budget) :rolleyes:
     
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    it would also increase revenue to law enforcement departments I'd wager.
     

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    If this turns out to be true the message by Jensen in front of the Samsung oven could get a new meaning:

    ...just not what he wants...

    If AMD launch will be a success expect lots of memes with his "honest" message.
     
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    Well, except it does happen, all the time. Including in the car world.

    You're still dumping the same amount of emergy in to the air, more radiators just do it faster. The heat will be the same - or, maybe even slightly more if you're able to more efficiently cool your GPU so it draws more power and thus dumps more heat.
     
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