Can I clone a fsystem drive with unstable sectors

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  1. Halloween Jack

    Halloween Jack Maha Guru

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    Hi folks,

    My system drive is failing, HD Tune shows it has an 'unstable sector'.

    I have connected a replacement drive and I had hoped to use Acronis to clone the disk.

    However, Acronis just fails at the beginning I guess because of the unstable sector.

    Is there any way to get the system partition over to the new drive without a complete reinstall?

    Incidently, Acronis seemed happy to back up the partition as a .tib file.

    Any suggestions?
     
  2. mmicrosysm

    mmicrosysm Master Guru

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    Grab what you can off drive. Try using Acronis with halt on errors off. Personally I would go after you data (docs, photos and other personal stuff) first.
     
  3. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    clonezilla or run dd or ddrescue from a linux terminal
     
  4. David Lake

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    First of all what drive is it?
     

  5. Halloween Jack

    Halloween Jack Maha Guru

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    Thanks guys.

    It's a Samsung Spinmaster HD161HJ.

    I didn't see many options, do you know where 'halt on errors' is? I'm at work now but I can take a look tonight.

    And thx, if Acronis can't do it I'll try clonezilla. I don't have another terminal though.

    Cheers
     
  6. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    Clonezilla has the quiet mode when cloning,it ignores hdd faults.choose expert mode when in clonezilla menu
     
  7. Svein_Skogen

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    Spinrite the drive (while keeping it cool!), then image the drive using trueimage or ghost.

    //Svein
     
  8. Halloween Jack

    Halloween Jack Maha Guru

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    Hi there,

    Here's what's happened:

    I found the option to turn off errors in Acronis but it didn't make a difference.

    I ran CHKDSK on C: and then Acronis worked.

    But, it hadn't renamed the drives. The new drive had H: as XP and my machine still booted onto the old C: drive.

    Also the Win 7 partition hadn't gone across at all, the new partition didn't show up.

    So I removed the old drive. Then it booted past the black screen, past the Acronis message but stopped on the blue screen just before it usually says 'Windows is starting up'

    Have I just done something wrong? missed a step?

    If I can't get this working I'll try Clonezilla next.

    Thanks
     
  9. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    in your case chkdsk should do more bad than good.
    when dealing with damaged,bad sectors hard drive,i always use RAW mode backup,it is best as it copies every bit ignoring errors.
    boot your computer with alive linux cd/usb ,open a terminal and gain root privileges,in a debian based linux like ubuntu it should be

    sudo su

    then you should type this command

    dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=4096 ,noerror

    where sda it is the source,your faulty drive and sdb is the target drive.
    to be sure what is what before launching the command ,open gparted the default partition editor ,and you should see name of each disk .
     
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  11. Halloween Jack

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    Hi there,

    I followed the advice on Acronis website regarding CHKDSK :( oh well.

    Not sure if I understand the alive linux bit. Can I just get ubuntu and stick it on a a DVD (I don't have any CDs)

    Then open a terminal (is that like a shell, I don't know much about Linux) type sudo su.

    So this process copies partitions not physical drives? My failing drive has 2 partitions with XP and Win7 on.

    I need to move C: to H: and W: to I:

    so would that be:

    dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdh bs=4096 ,noerror

    dd if=/dev/sdw of=/dev/sdi bs=4096 ,noerror

    Is that right ?

    Cheers
     
  12. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    no,linux names a bit different the partitions...
    if you have a hard disk it should be sda and its partitions should be sda1 or sda2 where sda1 is a the C partition equivalent if i may say so.

    for this i pointed to use gparted first ,just to find out what name has each partition.


    sorry ,sometimes i forgot to keep things as simple as it is possible.
    dd is a very powerfull command ,beter not messing with it.
    sorry again..
    for simpler approach,download clonezilla http://clonezilla.org/downloads/stable/iso-zip-files.php

    it has a text interface menu,but it is very straight forward.you an clone partition/s or entire hard disks.
     
  13. Halloween Jack

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    Thanks. I've downloaded Clonezilla and stuck it on a CD (I did have one afterall)

    I'm going to try it once the wife's finished on the PC.

    Shame Acronis didn't work... I wonder why. Once again a prog I paid for doesn't work and I download a free replacement. :)

    Cheers
     
  14. anticupidon

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    well if you will try Clonezilla first choose begginer mode....
    if the milk turns sour ,try advanced mode it will add an aditional menu where you can check an *silent mode* option
     

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