BSODs caused by AMD drivers, multiple times a day... but....

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  1. nekrosoft13

    nekrosoft13 Active Member

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    I have one computer at home that is has one of the most annoying issues I ever dealt with...

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    32gb DDR5
    Radeon 5700
    Gigabyte B650 m-itx motherboard

    So the issue is that I'm getting constant BSODs caused by amdkmdag.sys, sometimes 5-6 a days, sometimes all with few minutes of each other...

    But here is the kicker, IT ONLY HAPPENS when PC is on, and monitor is turned off.
    If the I leave the monitor on, it can run for weeks with no issue.

    Turn of the monitor and BSOD is guaranteed to happen within 24-48 hours.
     
  2. wavetrex

    wavetrex Ancient Guru

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    Try with another DP cable?
     
  3. sandia

    sandia New Member

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    I had something similar happening 2 drivers ago. If I turned off the monitor with the button or let it sleep, pc would crash and restart. Clean driver reinstall fixed it.
     
  4. nekrosoft13

    nekrosoft13 Active Member

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    tried that before..

    Did it again, used DDU again, Installed 23.4.3 and turned the monitor off and less then 24 hours later PC had 5 BSODs.
     

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  5. KissSh0t

    KissSh0t Ancient Guru

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    Have you tried different chipset drivers?

    I had some funny crashes for a while and found the cause was actually the chipset driver not display driver, despite the display driver being the thing that appeared to be crashing.
     
  6. Undying

    Undying Ancient Guru

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    Well dont turn off the monitor :p
     
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  7. nekrosoft13

    nekrosoft13 Active Member

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    yeah I know... Its an AMD system, maybe I need to sacrafice a goat some some god, but which one.. to make it work.
     
  8. nekrosoft13

    nekrosoft13 Active Member

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    I have the current latest ones for AM5 platform.
     
  9. Chastity

    Chastity Ancient Guru

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    Do you have the AMD "PCI Bus" driver installed? If so, have fun removing the driver. Ever since AMD included the sideload version in their drivers, my laptop got oddly unstable. Switching to MS's PCI Root Complex stub fixed things.
     
  10. KissSh0t

    KissSh0t Ancient Guru

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    Are they what is provided to you via the support website for your motherboard or the ones AMD releases on their website?

    If you are using what AMD releases, try the ones provided on the support site for your specific motherboard model, the downside here is to doing a clean windows install is recommended.

    I'm guessing this is your board? https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B650I-AORUS-ULTRA-rev-10#kf

    It's a nice board btw, always surprised at how small micro itx is.

    Also, does your monitor have a driver and is it installed? what is your monitor?
     

  11. nekrosoft13

    nekrosoft13 Active Member

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    No, I just checked, Its a standard Microsoft driver.

    I tried both chipset drivers for OEM and from AMD.

    And yes it is B650I Ultra, with DELL P2418HT monitor

    The amount of BSOD this system gets its insane...

    this insanity only happens with monitor off.
    Screenshot 2023-05-14 002904.png
     
  12. KissSh0t

    KissSh0t Ancient Guru

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    That's a Touch monitor correct? The driver is installed for it?

    Does the system act this way with Windows 10? or is it just Windows 11?

    Do you have another monitor to test?

    I'm starting to wonder if the cause is some sort of bug relating to the monitor being touch and windows 11 in some way.
     
  13. ClockClocker

    ClockClocker Master Guru

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    I have read about the very same Issue a while ago back then the user fixed it by disabling ULPS you might try that out in case you haven'T
     
  14. Djilkosh_Ns

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    I had the same problem. install AMD pci bus driver and you wont have anymore this problem.
     
  15. nekrosoft13

    nekrosoft13 Active Member

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    Curious.. where do I find that?

    BTW, i fixed the issue...

    with $3 fake monitor HDMI dongle...

    Now I can turn off the real monitor, PC still thinks there is monitor plugged in, and doesn't crash any more.

    oh the joys of having AMD video cards... maybe AMD needs another 10 years to fix their drivers..

    Screenshot 2023-06-09 225950.jpg
     
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  16. ClockClocker

    ClockClocker Master Guru

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    You have to go to the registy for that

    Regedit then search for "EnableUlps" and change 1 to 0.
     
  17. DimkaTsv

    DimkaTsv Master Guru

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    Do you have memory dumps?
    Maybe we can look for a clue there?

    Actually, normal DP always talks to monitor even if it is turned off, don't know about HDMI (but it have different behaviour iirc). My mobo will warn me if i have no monitor connected on boot, but it won't send a warning if monitor is connected through DP but disabled.
    So maybe something in this mechanism is broken for you? But still... BSODing and crashing isn't expected outcome.
     

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