Borderlands 2 + MSI 670 oc + Physx High

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  1. mentalpeace

    mentalpeace Active Member

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    Hey, i bought a MSI 670 OC edition yesterday.

    There is an outstanding difference comparing with a 6850 crossfire. Everything seems smoother, and im not talking about FPS, it is a different feeling... 45 fps ingame with the 670 seems like 60 fps in the crossfire. Also everything looks smoother in terms of quality.

    I love how it works for Physx. Batman (Max settings Dx11 Physx high) is REALLY enjoyable. Mafia II is lovely.

    The thing is in Borderlands 2 (1080, Max setings, Physx high) when a lot of action is going on (especially with 3 team mates) the fps go as low as 38 or so... its kinda annoying. The GPU usage at those moments are 60%~ so i figured that must be a driver problem.

    Sorry for the english!
     
  2. NeoandGeo

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    I do believe it is a driver problem with the 6xxx series. Lots of reports of 560-580 cards getting better performance. Hopefully it is sorted out soon.
     
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    Its physx, having it on high with lots of stuff happening kills FPS quick. I've got a single 680 overclocked to 1290 and I get slow downs in huge battles with physx on high (1680x1050).

    Physx has always been a taxing technology. try installing the latest 0613 physx from nvidia but thats really all you can do for now. Otherwise, drop it a notch.

    http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx-9.12.0613-driver.html


    Physx will render cloth and stuff happening in the area you in not just particles from guns / etc. Keep this in mind alot of times thats why you are seeing slowdowns, it's not just whats happening from the battle...
     
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    I get the performance dips with Physx on medium and high. Sometimes even when there are no particles, only complicated scenery in the distance I will drop to 40-50. GPU usage never goes above 70% at any time either. Some on Neogaf have reported Nvidia is aware of the issue and that it mostly affects the 6xx series. Many are getting better performance on 570/580.

    Along with the vsync stutter issue that plagued these cards, I wonder if there is a very real defect in the hardware somewhere.

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    This is from a trustworthy source. Can any of the Nvidia officials here comment on this?
     
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    Its because of the dynamic clocks. They really need to disable that entirely if you choose a high performance setting. I set mine for max performance, but from what I understand if a game isn't pushing it hard and the usage is low the clock can drop causing these "performance" drops. With mine at max performance I've never seen the clock drops.
     
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    My clocks stay steady through the performance drops.
     
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    Nvidia officials have commented about it over at GeForce.com. There should be a patch for Borderlands 2 that increases performance from Gearbox/2k and I'm assuming there will be one at a driver level too.
     
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    I meant in general, thats why the 400/500 series are sometimes perceived as faster. I use max performance and mine only drops when it's idle. it doesnt drop in any game, some people dont change that setting though in the driver CP.
     
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    Just confirmed, and at least for me, that setting didn't have any effect on Borderlands 2 performance. I am pretty sure that setting is just placebo on the 6xx series cards.
     
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    I know, the borderlands 2 issue is different. I always run mine set for max performance, it's water cooled and I've got a 1100 watt PSU so I dont care about heat or power used.
     

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    Is there any evidence that max performance setting actually does anything for the 6 series? If I run into issues it is the first thing I try, and it always has the same end result of making no difference.
     
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    Ok so all we gave to do is wait for a patch.

    Im so impressed right now with the overall performance that i dont care waiting like 3 months for it :D.

    Best videocard i bought in many many years. (8600gt - 8800gt - ati 4850 - amd 5850 - amd 6850 Toxic crossfire - 670 GTX).

    Its a freaking monster.
     
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    yea it down clocks different steps. i think the max performance option is either low clock / idle or max clock / loaded.

    using the power option lets the card clock down over multiple clock speed steps.
     
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    Give an example.
     
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    670 owner here. Never have issues with The game. Physx is on high and all maxed at 1920x1200. Stays pegged at 60 fps for me.
     

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    If i turn on physx high and play coop with my 670, the framerate drops are terrible.
     
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    yes, i've noticed, while using fraps, that just staring into the distance in certain directions in certain areas drops my fps into the 30's and 40's on a GTX 670. strange
     
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    Could it be hdd related? I moved my game to ssd right after install. I have a system like many of you, but mine has been trouble free. I have been in some big 4 way coop fights and never have trouble.
     
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    same here trouble free and i dont have an ssd ,pegged at 60.1fps i do use vsync
     
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    I use vsync too. Maybe that is the secret ...
     

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