Bolivia declares Israel a terrorist state

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  1. IcE

    IcE Don Snow Staff Member

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    That's because Hamas is running this game how they want. They purposely endanger innocent civilians, hoping that Israel kills them so that they have A: More popular support, and B: Israel gets reamed by the West/international community and loses support. I wouldn't be surprised if someone is backing the Hamas secretly, hoping that the retaliation will eventually turn the U.S. hostile, thereby pulling military support. Then it's just Israel in the wild middle east vs everyone.
     
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    Are you sure you want to try that? Because that's how you cause war.

    What in the... have you read any books lately? You seem philosophically incompetent. No one has a "right" to any land, we're all ****ing HUMAN. Differing beliefs or perceptions of reality does not justify your sociopathical wishes to subjugate people to your own ****ing whims! That's why I'm so sick of this religious bull****. If we all just opened our ****ing minds a little bit?! NO ONE CARES ABOUT WHAT SIDE YOU SUPPORT WHEN 1000 CIVILIANS ARE DEAD. Are you one of those close-minded apathetic geniuses who only acknowledge the value of lost life when it happens to you personally? :no:
     
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    To suggest there are races or cultures who love death more than their children is basically as racist a sentiment as you can come by. You can find all sorts of demented behavior in individuals everywhere, but to ascribe it to whole races or cultures is Hitlerian in essence. Golda Meirs quotes about her enemies is of course an unbiased, non-self-serving opinion on her part? And yes, there are just as dastardly quotes about the Jews on the other side.

    How ironic that Muslims and Jews through the centuries were much closer in relations than they were with the Christians. The Jews sought and received haven in Arab/Muslim lands during the inquisition and felt far more secure with them than in with the Christians in the middle ages. It was only in the last century over Palestine that their relations came to a boil.
     
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    Black_ice_Spain Ancient Guru

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    If it was versus anyone else I would blame jews... but right now they are a good barrier versus muslims.

    Just like hitler 50 years ago versus commies :E.

    They felt more secure because they were both in the same situation, Spain was rebuilt with the help of the Christian church and everyone else had to be kicked out. But now they are fighting to get a place, for me, at the end, everything is okay as long as they keep Jerusalem safe from muslims (who are the only ones which right now behave like in the medieval times), XXI crusaders :nerd:
     
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    It's nice that everyone has an opinion, and we can disagree peacefully. In the US so many don't know the history because the mainstream news and educational system have told a very one-sided story for years. Now, I may need a tinfoil hat, but I think I heard that many of the people that control mainstream media and educational textbooks in the US are some of the same people who believe God gave them a right to the land in question - but that's a whole other issue.
    Miko Peled's book "The General's Son" tells a different version of the story than what we are used to hearing in the US.
    -"Through his father's deep knowledge of the Israeli war of terror, together with his own research, Miko Peled ruins the myths surrounding the Israel and Palestine situation, and delivers a truth so damning that many Jews and Israel supporters will not be able to bear it. He reveals facts such as the original expelled Jews are not the ones returning, and they are not their descendants either, covers the double standards regarding the right of return, which doesn't apply to Palestinians, and dispels the myth that there has been a conflict for ages by producing proof that it was peaceful up until 1947 when Israel launched their illegal attacks."
    Peled sums it up in a youtube video which I highly recommend. I can't post links, but you can find it searching youtube for "An honest Israeli Jew tells the Real Truth about Israel".
     
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    What is wrong with this world
    Hamas defend there land and they say are terrorist
    israel invade there land and destroy every think and pple say israel is defending her self ..
     
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    Wasn`t Hamas already shooting rockets at Israel before this offensive began??
     
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    What nation exists that isn't the result of a "land grab"? England is a land grab by the Normans from the Saxons. Canada is a land grab by the French from the various natives. Mexico is land grab by the Spaniards of the various natives. If you grab land, buy land, conquest land, it's yours. That's how it's always been and how it will always be.
     

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    But the original people have the right to defend there land ??
     
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    Well yeah that's what Israel is doing.
     
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    Why don't we all just go back to Africa I'm sure it can sustain seven billion people
     
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    No thanks. Don't want to catch ebola.
     
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    Yeah not partial to hot weather or droughts
     

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    You're the brain washed one.
     
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    jbmcmillan Ancient Guru

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    Thousands over a period of time.
     
  18. lucidus

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    Far Cry 2 was meh.
     
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    We can't go around letting theists claim their own land. Ain't nobody got the geographic area or resources for that.

    How do you have a RIGHT to something based on the evidence of RELIGION, you know, the least credible idea in existence.

    Why don't we realize that these are no longer the Dark Ages. Lets not even talk about the fact that we gave these people land because some guy in the sky said it was theirs... you know what... **** this. Just **** it. This is no different than the segregation we ended. I'm atheist, and even I can see that separating land based on people's beliefs is retarded. If Jews and the Muslims want to be so intolerant, let them take what comes to them. :s3d:
     
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    fantaskarsef Ancient Guru

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    ^ This.

    I'm not sure any of you knew, but already Richard III. Lionheart, once great king of the cruisades, forbid jewish people to work in any job other than banking and executioning business, if I recall correctly (no traditional craft). So they went for banking, became rich, and envy amongst others rose.

    And after the war, nobody wanted the jews in their country... and they wouldn't want to stay where they barely survived, like Russia, and to my regret, Austria and Germany. They wouldn't want to stay in Great Brittain, and they weren't exactly "welcome" there too. So the state of Israel was ideologically born.

    Again, the most part of the fault, as my humble opinion is, is every other's, the US, Brittain, Germany, Austria, Russia... every major power in the last 2500 years, except the Israelis and Palestinians.


    Also, I wonder, has any of you seen Don't mess with the Zohan? :eyebrows:
     
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