beta 77.13 Drivers Dated 5/13/2005

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce Drivers Section' started by fivefeet8, Jun 5, 2005.

  1. exscalibur99

    exscalibur99 Master Guru

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    rthdribl framerate now is good...
     
  2. Valagard

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    Ok, about all the Everquest 2 performance problems. People, this is a game made by the same people that brought you Starwars Galaxies, which is also a performance nightmare.

    You want engine performance, go play some WoW. That runs beautifully, but everything is low rendered like Warcraft 3.

    On a side note, SWG is running ALITTLE better, I notice its not texture swapping as much. (76.45's and .50's were BRUTAL on performance)
     
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  3. Captain Obvious

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    just played counter-strike source for about 4 hours and i think i might have a winner. gained bout 5-10 fps in 32 player server.(got some gains of more but not that often)the stress test didnt show that much of an improvment, only about 3 fps.I have not tried kortor2, or act of war. all seems good.
     
  4. Kingotnw

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    EQ2 wont even run on these for me, I can get into the character select, but I crash once I try to load into the game. My main concern is EQ2 performance, and it irratates me that I get about the same performance on my 9800 pro as I do on a GF 6800GT.

    Every other game the 6800GT smokes the 9800, but in this one game (documented problem) there is no difference, and in some cases (town), performance is worse.
     

  5. NecroDemonNZXT

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    i lost about 200 points in 3d mark 05 so i unninstalled them right after!!!are they that good?
     
  6. fivefeet8

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    Wow. Lost 200 points?!!! Damn you driver gods. Keep my 3dmarks up!!!! Waaaah.. :rolleyes:
     
  7. zachig

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    Hi Guys, your help is needed!

    I just installed the new Forcware 77.13 Beta Drivers.
    Those drivers work pretty good and i even got an improvement in both 3DMark03 and 3DMark05.

    Apparently, the version i've downloaded from this site (Guru3D) is the "International" version (not the "English" one).

    After installation, i discovered that my whole Display Drivers GUI is in my origin language (which is very annoying, to me).

    I wonder if is there a way to change the GUI Language back to English???

    I want the easiest solutions, please!!! (I've heard some suggestions, to uninstall, change regional settings to US, re-install, and then change my regional setting to what i want).

    Your help is welcome, 10x
     
  8. OneWord

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    I've noticed a slight temp increase with these drivers of about 1 or 2.C tho'
     
  9. FatBoyNL

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    Hi Zachig,
    You've got several options:

    -Change your location to US or UK. That will set default language to be used to English. But then you'll prolly have to change currency and other stuff back to your locale, and that sucks :)

    -Search for all files on C:\ that start with 'nv*'. This will show you all NVidia files. You'll see a lot of localized NVidia Help-files (nvcp*.hlp) and localized 'nvrs*.dll'-files. These are the files responsible for showing localized NV Control Panels and Help-files.
    Nvcpeng.hlp & Nvrseng.dll are the English ones to be used (DO NOT DELETE THESE)
    Delete all other nvcp*.hlp & nvrs*.dll files, especially the ones for your own country. Be carefull not to wipe needed .dll's, or you got to start all over again after reinstalling the driver. Just leave those in the Recycle Bin, so you can recover them when needed.

    As I don't know where you're from, I can't confirm which 2 files to delete. Good luck!
     
  10. FatBoyNL

    FatBoyNL Ancient Guru

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    And now back to topic ;)

    Installed 77.13 yesterday and I'm very pleased with these. I have been using 76.45 for almost a month, as my favorite 7-series driver. Tested 72.12 for a few days, but I was ready to go 'back' to 76.45, because I didn't seem able to 'finetune' 72.12 exactly the way I wanted.

    77.13 rule! Very smooth on my rig.
    IQ seems about the same as 72.12 (=very well), but 77.13 is a lot smoother, even smoother than 76.45.
    Smoother in benchmarks AND in-game (FarCry & HL² anywayz). I'll check FlatOut, CoD, MOHAA/MOHPA, PoP-WW and Lego Star Wars later today.

    Benchies (all @324/405/828MHz):
    76.45
    3DMark03: 10200
    3DMark05: 4200
    Aquamark3: 50300

    72.12
    3DMark03: 10050
    3DMark05: 4010
    Aquamark3: 49900

    77.13
    3DMark03: 10200
    3DMark05: 4100
    Aquamark3: 50800

    So, I lost a few points in 3DMark05 and gained a few in Aquamark 3.
    But, OMG, it's so smooth now :D
     

  11. frsschmidt

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    Hehe, yes WoW even runs on my Celeron @ 416 MHz + Geforce 2 System, but thats because of the low detail textures, no detailed shadows, no scalable cast effects, low polygon count, no specular lighting, mostly no other lighting effects but some shaders on the ground, no bump mapping effects in the character textures or the environment textures etc. etc. It has a simple graphic engine like most games had around 1996. So you really can't compare it to EQ2 graphics ;).

    To get the best performance in EQ2 i disable fastwrites in the BIOS or the graphics driver. I think most people who have stuttering problems have them because there is a problem with nvidia cards and fastwrite. For me EQ2 runs much smoother without fastwrite.
    Under the water settings in the options menu set the 6th entry (environment cube setting - don't know the excact name in the english menu) to (Fastest - one time) because it mostly does no noticeable change in graphics quality but costs a lot of cpu/gpu power everywhere in the game.
    In the Lights menu set maximum numbers of lights attached to players to 1.
    In the particle effects menu set maximum simultaneous spell result visuals allowed per charakter to 1 or 2.
    Well there are a lot of other settings which influence the graphics performance but these are three which doesn't make a noticeable change to the graphics quality but costs a lot of the performance.
     
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  12. evilcircuit

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    3dmark 03:71.89 = 9405 77.13 = 9505

    FARCRY: 71.89
    Resolution: 1280×1024
    Maximum quality option, Direct3D renderer
    Level: Training, demo: Training.tmd
    Pixel shader: default model
    Antialising: 2×
    Anisotrophic filtering: 4×
    HDR: disabled
    Geometry Instancing: disabled
    Normal-maps compression: disabled
    Score = 49.43 FPS (Run 1)
    Score = 49.90 FPS (Run 2)
    Average score = 49.66 FPS

    FARCRY: 77.13
    Resolution: 1280×1024
    Maximum quality option, Direct3D renderer
    Level: Training, demo: Training.tmd
    Pixel shader: default model
    Antialising: 2×
    Anisotrophic filtering: 4×
    HDR: disabled
    Geometry Instancing: disabled
    Normal-maps compression: disabled
    Score = 51.00 FPS (Run 1)
    Score = 50.79 FPS (Run 2)
    Average score = 50.89 FPS
     
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  13. Klementh

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    I've done 3 runs of each of these benchmarking tools in both of these drivers versions. I made sure everything was set to default in Perf&Q global driver settings.
    To my specs on the right I will add my 100% stress-stable overclocking settings that I used in the tests:
    CPU@2470, SysMem@412CL2, GPU/Mem@547/1134

    The results:

    3dMark01SE :
    77.13 Average score: 20971; Best run: 21050
    76.45 Average score: 20913; Best run: 21053
    76.44 Average score: 20735; Best run: 21001
    72.13 Average score: 21046; Best run: 21244

    Aquamark3:
    77.13 Average score: 61917; Best run: 61923; AvgGfx: 8689; AvgCPU: 10764
    76.45 Average score: 61265; Best run: 61375; AvgGfx: 8588; AvgCPU: 10685
    76.44 Average score: 61601; Best run: 61750; AvgGfx: 8654; AvgCPU: 10685
    72.13 Average score: 60157; Best run: 60210; AvgGfx: 8352; AvgCPU: 10750

    3DMark03:
    77.13 Average score: 9145; Best run: 9157
    76.45 Average score: 9135; Best run: 9139
    76.44 Average score: 9140; Best run: 9144
    72.13 Average score: 9030; Best run: 9033

    3DMark05:
    77.13 Average score: 3741; Best run: 3771
    76.45 Average score: 3724; Best run: 3728
    76.44 Average score: 3714; Best run: 3739
    72.13 Average score: 3678; Best run: 3680

    Doom3 timedemo 1024x768 HQ no AA:
    77.13 Average score: 74.6 FPS; Best run: 74.8 FPS
    76.45 Average score: 75.7 FPS; Best run: 75.8 FPS
    76.44 Average score: 75.1 FPS; Best run: 75.3 FPS
    72.13 Average score: 75.5 FPS; Best run: 75.8 FPS

    Doom 3 is the game I'm actually playing so I don't feel lucky. This must be something with OpenGL.

    Another negative point is that not only didn't they fix the existing bugs in application profiles, but they added a bug where applying a setting in a specific game profile sometimes it will also be applied in the global settings. It doesn't affect nHancer.

    Also I want to confirm the performance in rthdribl (Real-Time High-Dynamic Range Image-Based Lighting) is back to normal (much higher).

    EDIT: Added 72.13 scores
     
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  14. Shaman391

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    All in All, it's a Miracle :D
    Good job Nvidia....
     
  15. vochore starcru

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    i have stated this in the eq2 forums before.
    no matter what drivers you run at this time eq2 will not have any big jumps in performance until they recode the game to take advantage of the new cards that have come out in the last 6 months or so.
    eq2 was developed mainly with tech. from almost 3 years ago wene the gforce ti 500 was top dog,they had to make this game so every 1 from a gforce ti to a 6800 ultra could play the game halfways desiantly,thats why eq2 is so cpu dependant and it always seems like our high end 6800s are hardly working.
     

  16. shades3k

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    You are joking, right? I mean - you seriously can tell a difference in 1-2*c? You check your temps that much? :/ probably just a warmer day :/
     
  17. Tyson123

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    Some more benchies, cpu and card at stock speeds

    AQM3
    71.89: 60,5
    76.45: 61,8
    76.44: 62,2
    77.13: 62,2

    Doom3 (High quality, no AA)
    71.89: 92,6
    76.45: 94,7
    76.44: 94,8
    77.13: 94,4

    3dmark3 (including cpu benches):
    71.89: 11,255 and 11,274 on another run
    74.44: 11,268
    77.13: 11,262

    They seem good. Gonna keep them for now
     
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  18. OneWord

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    Nice comparison, i'm going to assume Doom3 timedemo was run at 1024x768?
     
  19. bigblack

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    the only problem I have with these drivers are that Soldier Of Fortune 2 crashes all other games i've tested ran flawlessly, that sucks because hearing all the positive feedback about these drivers it seems like these are real keepers but except for that one lil problem these drivers are a nice set. back to the bulletproof 72.12 driver
     
  20. Burnt_Ram

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    two games i care about. CoDUO, and FarCry seem to be be doing better than 71.89 according to you guys ... so i think i might have to try them. hard giving up my 71.89's thou ;) oh has anyone tried these with GTR ?
     

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