best antivirus?

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  1. Tat3

    Tat3 Ancient Guru

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    I use Norton Antivirus and Zone Alarm Pro. No problems.
    Don't use F-Secure, I had only problems whith it. I allso don't have experiences about Avast, when I was using it, virus striked and I had to re-intall Windows.

    NOD32 looks nice, never used it... Perhaps I'll try it sometime...
     
  2. Tepabajo

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    When it's free, you get what you pay for. Just because some of you have never had any issues with your free stuff doesn't mean that you have really put it to the test.

    The attitude towards antivirus software is similar to the attitude towards operating systems, the big boys are the bad guys that deliver lousy products. This is total bunk! Did you guys ever stop to think that when you're at the top like Microsoft, McAfee and Symantec, you have a big red target painted on your chest saying to the world of the hacker, come attack me please! These companies have to spend millions upon millions of R&D dollars to maintain the integrity of their products. Do you guys really think these other non-mainstream products are actually more safe because they are somehow written better? Give me a break, please!!!!!!!! They only seem more safe because they are less known thus less frequently targeted but the reality is they have more open vulnerabilities that haven't been exploited yet than any of the mainstream products. It's just a matter of time.

    I have been using Norton Antivirus for years and have not had problems with any malicious files, trojans, worms or whatever. I use Norton in conjuction with Webroot Spy Sweeper (all full blown purchased retail products). I also use Ad-Aware occassionally just to compare notes.

    Prudent maintenance like a previous poster mentioned with respect to your operating system and antivirus/firewall software is the best defense. With the rate at which malicious software is written, none of the above mentioned products will be perfect but I will put my money on the big boys and their $$$ everytime.

    The latest PC World magazine has a good article on the top Security Suites and listed Norton Internet Security as the top one on the market today. You've go to realize that there's a very good reason for this.

    Good luck.
     
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  3. Finchwizard

    Finchwizard Don Apple

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    Have to flat out disagree with you. :)

    Being in the industry, and the sheer amount of computers that I have to fix on a daily basis, as well as the sheer amount of computers mates fix in computer shops, we all agree, that Norton is the biggest steaming pile of crap on the planet.

    It's hugely resource hungry, it misses QUITE a lot of Virus's and Trojans that even the little guys can pick up.

    The worst thing to ever have on your computer is a product from Symantec, (Corporate Symantec is different code base all together, and runs decent from what I've heard)

    AVG is a brilliant Virus scanner, I've used it for many many years now and it continues to improve, they sell it as well, it's not just a free virus scanner.

    A fully up to date Windows, with Firefox or Opera, and staying off Porn sites, and warez sites, and crack sites, scanning with Adaware, Spybot Search and Destory, with AVG, a proper Router Firewall, and not installing warez programs or anything unless it's legitmately bought, no cracks or anything.

    You don't go opening attachments in any email, you don't accept files from chat programs unless it's really something you requested, you're laughing, because it's a solid system.

    Always try to find the Free or Opensource alternative to products instead of just blindly following "If you pay for it, it's better" rubbish.

    Oh, and the whole market share thing is complete bullocks.

    Do you see Unix or Apache being hacked more than IIS and Windows servers? Nope, IIS and Windows servers still have WAYYYYYY more problems. So there go's your Market share crap out the window.
     
  4. binormalkilla

    binormalkilla Master Guru

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    Finchwizard, word. Norton=suck, pretty much anything you pay for, except McAffee. I completely agree that safe-computing is the best form of prevention. I don't use any anti-virus. only the built in Windows firewall with SP2, along with all of the critical updates. I use peerguardian 2 when using bittorrent protocol. If you surf a lot of porn, then you probably will get some nasty adware/trojans. Just be careful, and you will be ok. If you really need the extra protection (porn addict!), then I would say: AVG, Bitdefender (free still?), Anti-Vir (personal favorite). Just don't get anything you have to pay for: it is soooo unnecessary.

    Oh yea make sure to get Spybot search and destroy: great detection, removal, and immunization for spyware/adware, trojans, dialers, and all of that other nasty stuff.
    Also get Adaware SE, and Ewido security is good for adware, but I think that you have to pay for it. I only use the first two, but really on Spybot SnD, becuase it can detect pretty much anything.
    The reason that I think Norton sucks is becuase of the amount of resources and services that it takes, not to mention the amount of time it takes to uninstall. I had a friend that couldn't get rid of everything without uninstalling windows, but this was several years ago, so maybe it's different now.
     
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  5. scoutingwraith

    scoutingwraith Ancient Guru

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    @binormalkilla....

    Norton is still the same.. I had my friend uninstall his Anti-Virus and he still had the processes in his taskbar running which were taking a huge amount of resources. Yeah safe computing is by far the best way to protect yourself...but just for the curious people ;) the best combination of free software is AVG, Bitdefender, Spybot, ZA Firewall (free version), Ad-aware personal (free version)
     
  6. Tepabajo

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    AMX,
    You must realize where these guys are coming from, they wouldn't buy a mainstream product if it was the last one on earth, regardless if it was top rated by more than one major PC magazine. Funny, I 've also had to uninstall and reinstall Norton before along with many other antivirus programs and I have never had a problem with leftover files. It's just a matter of knowing what your doing I guess.

    Hey all you antimainstream guys out there, tell me, what antivirus do you think some of the largest hitech companies use? I work for one and I know exactly what they use and it's not one of the cheap fringe freebies. In the 10 years I've been employed by them we've never been down because of virus', trojans or whatever.

    AMX, just look at what successful large companies are using and their track records and ratings by your major PC mags and websites. If you find in favor of Norton or McAfee great, if not then go with the other AV products. Either way as it has already been said, the best defense is prudent smart surfing.

    Good luck.
    Tep
     
  7. Clements

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    If you have more than one PC and are a home user, paying for Norton AV can get very expensive as of the latest 2007 edition which allows only 1 licence for the standard retail version (along with Product Activation). Most people in this forum would probably have more than 1 rig and would rather not pay more than they need. Nod32 and Kaspersky have better detection overall than Norton (especially against new threats), and are also cheaper. Free antivirus apps like AVG often have lower detection than commercial apps like Nod32 and Kaspersky, but do the job well enough (along with safe computing) for non-critical systems and don't cost money, so is worth a recommendation.
     
  8. Insomniac34

    Insomniac34 Ancient Guru

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    QFT, I used Norton for about a year, which is a year too long. Such a resource hog, didn't seem all that reliable, but the worst thing was trying to uninstall it. I still noticed bits and pieces left behind that I couldn't seem to get rid of. You know a program is awful when there are 3rd-party uninstallers created specifically to remove said program and all traces of it. In the end, I had to format my hard-drive, officially ending any relationship I had with Norton.

    Since then I switched over to Kaspersky and I'm very happy. I extended my commitment with them just recently, 3 years for $100. Some might say it's a lot, some might say free AV software works just as good, but $100 for 3 years is a small price to pay to have peace of mind. Very fast, very customizable, and very light on the resources. Highly recommended :)
     
  9. kaioshade

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    Norton 2007 is a lot lighter and less resource hungry than 2006, it is a vast improvement. No antivirus program is perfect, but i think norton gets an unfair amount of hate, mainly because its the most popular.

    But im not here to change minds.
     
  10. Finchwizard

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    It's hated by a lot of people because of the problems it causes.

    People use Norton in big corporations why? Because Norton Home and Norton Corporate are COMPLETELY different products with completely different code bases, the corporate runs well, because they offer free telephone support, they don't want big customers ringing up all the time.

    Norton Home charges for Telephone support, because they push out a buggy product, they are going to get a lot of phone calls and make even more $$.

    There are A LOT of things wrong with some of these PC User magazines and things with recommendations too, just because they own a magazine doesn't know they know what's best. They also receive a lot of extra $$ for advertising, possibly rating things higher than others.
     

  11. Insomniac34

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    I was just looking up reviews of Norton and saw they charge $30 per incident when you call Telephone Support. Ridiculous.
     
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  12. Finchwizard

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    Yep, it's rubbish, and if you have worked in the industry long enough, you will know Norton is rubbish.

    If you haven't learnt that yet, you will.
     
  13. Marri

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    Since nothings perfect why bother going for something better..but then again why shouldn't one...by nothing being perfect you make it seems as if all the other higher ranking AV's have the same amount of flaws..but they dont , if they aren't perfect they're still much better then nortan..

    Nortan doesn't have the best Virus detiction rate , it's heavy (and even if the latest isn't as heavy it's still heavier then kaspersky/NOD32 ) last I remeber it was slow @ scanning 1.5TB's...
    When I uninstalled nortan along time back , replacting it with panda , I was pleased since my PC started running much more efficently and detected 8viruses !!!
    I put panda away...and tried a newer version of Nortan (maybe 2005) used that and replaced that with kaspersky , spotted around 10-15 viruses...
    So why go for nortan when your not running a servers or anything of the sort..
    Why torment your self..
     
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    I checked out this thread because my NAV renue date is here and I'm looking for opinions on "best" AV/FW, and something you guys brought up (porn sites) made me think; I try to avoid obvious hazardous-looking sites but I do hit my share or porn sites. Even so, NAV2005 has allowed ZERO problems during a year of surfing.
    EDIT:Well, that's not really true, Ad-aware and Spybot fix a lot of stuff NAV missed.

    Opinions will vary on what's "best". My main concern as a gamer is what's AMONG the best, and not a resource hog. I play MS flight sim with some heavy 3rd party addons, and I don't want to have to disable my AV for smooth game performance.
    My main reason for considering something besides Norton is that it may actually be overkill for my very basic pc use, hense using up resources for nothing.
    I see ZoneAlarm antivirus 2007 is only about $12. Is that a good choice for a lighter, yet efficient AV?
     
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  15. Finchwizard

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    ZoneAlarm make an Antivirus?

    Well there you go.

    Honestly, AVG is most of what people will need, it's free, so it's the right price, and it's very minimal on resources, and it's fast.
    Most people won't need anything else, just practice safe security.
     

  16. SL2

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    From my experiences with client & my PC's:

    Norton 2006/2007
    - Resource hog
    - Has trouble picking up things that even the end user notices despite the average scan time being greater than any other scanner I've used
    - Bloated software suite that once installed is actually somewhat difficult to completely purge from someone's system
    - Not the most stable software package in existence to say the least
    - If it *does* pick something up it does tend to be able to fix it
    - Installation CD's make excellent coasters for mugs of tea

    Mcafee
    - Not as demanding as Norton but does run sluggish on older PC's. Produces quite a fair bit of extra HDD activity.
    - Picks up stuff quite well but doesn't have a good success rate at repairing infected files or dealing with anything that has latched onto explorer.exe
    - Fairly stable
    - Default program behaviour I find to be rather intrusive, not so bad after some configuration & not nearly as bad as Norton

    Avast!
    - Very resource friendly
    - Good success rate so far on detection, repair & removal
    - Interface isn't to my liking but does the job well
    - Stable
    - Scan time isn't the fastest but in it's defence, it does pick up things that others miss
     
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    Another vote for NOD32 here,
    Light, Fast, Easy.
     
  18. DrSiN

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    4 words "Norton Secure recycle bin" What an irritating peice of crap.

    Im using NOD32 and Kerio Firewall (Formally Sygate I think ?) Been using them years since I began to understand what an irritating peice of crap the Norton Security Suite was.

    As for Zonealarm , its the only software firewall I have ever had problems with. Back when I used it was particually tiresome with some games / apps. (Freelancer is one I can remember off the top of my head)

    And as people have already said , safe surfing practices are the best safeguard. Remember your anti virus wont pick up 100% of the crap thats floating around the net.
     
  19. aircool

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    Avast and ZA, ZA is great nothing wrong with it, it just needs more time to set up
     
  20. Tat3

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    Virus made me re-install Windows XP while I was using Avast! and yes, it was up to date. I'm not gonne try that agaen. I will try NOD32 soon, if it's as good as I heared, if I like it, I will start use it insted of Norton Antivirus, btw. never had any problems with Norton.
     

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