Bayonetta out today on Steam

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  1. Calmmo

    Calmmo Ancient Guru

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    The game is coded / bound by physics / sound / animations to 60, it breaks otherwise, same with the cutscenes and their 30 fps. Try forcing the game on an emulator (dolphin or cemu) to do anything other than that, and you'll see why. It's a port, seems to work fairly well, fine by me. Make a petition to have it removed from steam if you really think this affects you this much. Didnt see anyone go this nuts over the famous TES games and their physics bound based 60 framerate for example. This is just worse, far more than just physics are dependent on that framerate.
     
  2. RealNC

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    None of that invalidates the fact that there's a 60FPS lock.

    Listing reasons as to why an FPS lock is there does not remove the FPS lock.

    Playing an FPS locked game sucks. Knowing WHY the lock is there doesn't make the lock not suck.
     
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    Im having a weird problem, the menu doesn't show

    http://prntscr.com/ew3ah4

    Im using latest NVIDIA Driver (381.65) and W10 CU
     
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  4. Darren Hodgson

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    Well, for starters I cannot comment on AMD or crashing issues if I don't experience them and my expectations are quite clearly in check bearing in mind this is a port of a six year old game. Also, I don't understand this obsession with running games that are designed to run at 60 fps at over 60 fps; 60 fps is perfectly fine for a game of this kind, one that was built for consoles. Finally, £14.99 asking price tells you that is not a remaster but even so the port is a very solid one, especially coming from Platinum whose previous games (NieR:Automata included) are rife with issues and oversights. No offence but I think some people are just too damn picky when it comes to PC games! :p

    Oh and Digital Foundry think the game is great too: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-bayonetta-pc-performance-analysis

    P.S. The non-functioning MSAA is easy to miss since I was playing the game downsampled from 5K (5120x2880) to 2560x1440, which results in stunningly sharp image quality on my 25" screen.
     

  5. RealNC

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    This is the PC version, not the console version. 60FPS is not perfectly fine. It's fine for some people, but not fine for me, and certainly far from PERFECTLY fine.
     
  6. TimmyP

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    OH stfu :bang:
     
  7. RealNC

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    Right back at ya :)
     
  8. RPGgamesplayer

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    Darren i couldn't have said it better
     
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    RealNC do yourself a favour and let it go.
    It's an old game 60fps is perfectly fine it's not a shooter
     
  10. RealNC

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    It's crap. For me at least. And that's what I expressed here. That in *my opinion*, 60FPS locks are crap.

    It's me, not you. So please stop telling me that I should force myself to like something that I perceive as total crap.
     

  11. Darkest

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    Nobody is telling you to force yourself to do anything, let alone play the game. If you dislike the cap, don't play it.

    As for your earlier statements about PC gamers, you don't speak for anyone but yourself.
     
  12. RPGgamesplayer

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    It's how the game is made by design it's £14.99 if you expected more then ...... Clearly your hurting your reputation on here.
    In fact it's to late. I am not forcing anything it's not a triple A release it's just a simple port and a good one at that.
     
  13. Damien_Azreal

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    Exactly.
    It's beyond annoying to see people make such statements. A game is capped at 60fps... "GAME IS GARBAGE! TRASH PC GAME!!!"... no wonder some view PC gamers as entitled children.

    60fps is more then playable.

    And, as for being a PC gamer... as Darkest said, thankfully, you don't speak for anyone but yourself. Because being a PC gamer is all about choice. Personal preference.
    Not just in your setup, hardware... any of that. But, do you prefer 60fps, 144fps... unlimited... whatever.
    Because some players feel a certain way, doesn't mean everyone else does or should.

    And, for a game like this, for a PC port coming such a long time after the game's original release. 60fps is perfect for it.
     
  14. RealNC

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    I didn't know I had one.

    And I disagree. So let's agree to disagree.
     
  15. RealNC

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    Locking something (be it FPS or whatever else) limits choice. And if PC gaming is about choice...

    Your own words, not mine.
     

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    While I see both sides of the story, I find it irritating that games get released with frame rate caps. Many PC gamers spend hundreds of whatever currency on graphics cards alone, then hundreds of currency at monitors with high refresh rate.

    So seeing games being capped to 60fps is annoying. Then again, I get it, many games are locked for a reason.

    In an ideal world, we'd have no frame caps but some engines, I'm afraid, won't play nice with high frame rates.
     
  17. Damien_Azreal

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    Unless someone makes the choice to be okay with the 60fps cap.
    You are choosing to have an issue with it. Others, choose to accept it as they see no problem with it.

    Locking frame rate only becomes an issue when it's at a sub-par rate, like 30fps.
    60fps is perfectly playable and acceptable. It doesn't hurt the experience, or one's ability to play the game smoothly.
     
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    I have noticed that Activating msaa changes the Gamma settings for me. It doesn't matter if it is activated on top of downsampling or not it happens anyway. strange, does it happen to anybody else?

    NO AA

    https://ibb.co/b5gAbQ

    MSAA 2x

    https://ibb.co/f2oTVk
     
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  19. Damien_Azreal

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    Yeah, PC Gamer and a few other outlets have commented that AA doesn't really... do anything in game.
     
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    yes i knew it doesn't work, but completely changing the gamma...didn't expect that
     

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