Batman: Arkham Knight

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  1. stereoman

    stereoman Master Guru

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    I don't know about that I think the new films have a lot more realism than the early films, Tim Burton's films for example, I think the games could reflect that, even Gotham has more realism than the old films,

    I suppose it's a matter of taste but i'd prefer a batman game where game elements like the batmobile aren't overused, I wouldn't want to watch a 2 hour movie where batman used his car to solve every problem just like I don't want to play a game like that.
     
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    True, but the point is that there needs to be some form of balance to the situation.

    I'll always agree that its a game and a game is allowed to take things beyond the realm of realism, as that's pretty much the point of games. But when you take a certain IP and start messing with it in an unrealistic manner (which in this case is the fighting in AK and AC is not very batman like) then things start to piss off fans and feel out of place.

    Yes, a game needs to be fun and you can play with the variables to make sure that its enjoyable and functional, but once you start straying from the source material, you come really close to simply just making another game that has an ip pasted over the top of it.

    For me, it feels more like rocksteady just took AC, took everything including the bad bits and shortcomings and turned it all up to 11. That's not who game development should work. It certainly seems that once again gamers have latched on to the idea that dev X can do no wrong regardless of how wrong they get it.
     
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    The problem is... they've gone past "showing off" the Batmobile.
    They've shoved it into every aspect of the game. Want to solve a Riddler challenge? Get the Batmobile.
    Want to fight Firefly? Get the Batmobile. Here's a story mission! Get the Batmobile. Need to get a Riddler thug to get locations of his challenges and trophies? Get the Batmobile.

    I don't it being there, and I understand it's the new shiny toy in the box. But, they literally shoved it into every aspect of the game. Making it obnoxious, and taking away from the fun it could have added to the game.
    Racing around the city... awesome. Fighting tanks... okay but gets tedious quick. Car based platforming and puzzle solving? Dear god no.
     
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    Just beat the main story. I really like how they showed Batman's struggle with Scarecrow's toxin. I won't spoil anything, but the ending was really good and Scarecrow was an awesome villain! :nerd:
     

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    Imo, scarecrow was always a better villain than joker. Certainly more threatening.

    I think that there's too much mutual respect of sorts between batman and the joker for either of them to feel that threatened by each other actions. There's just soooo much history there that they know what each other is going to do next or how they'll react to a certain situation.
     
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    this is liek blashphemy..
     
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    But why though?:D

    The joker is just so boringly predictable that hes not really a threat. He just wants to mess with batman, wheres the scarecrow has a plan and if he needs to go through batman to achieve, he will. The scarecrow isn't interested in some "You and I are destined to do this for all eternity" crap that the joker talks about.
     
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    The best thing about Joker is that he's unpredictable.
    The Joker does see Batman as his other half, but that hasn't stopped him from going out of his way to try and kill Batman on several occasions.

    And, Joker is far more dangerous then Scarecrow. Scarecrow is awesome, but, he's only a threat because of his toxins. Physically he's no match for Batman.
    Where as the Joker can take the punishment Batman dishes out. And, Joker, will kill partners, henchmen... even his number two, Harley, is subjected to horrible physical abuse.

    Scarecrow doesn't want to kill anyone. He wants to cause fear. If the fear he causes makes them kill themselves or someone else... that's just a side effect in his eyes.
    Joker... wants to kill. Destroy, Main. Cripple. Rip Gotham apart and laugh while it lies bleeding and dying.
    Scarecrow wants fear. Joker wants destruction and death.
     
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    Wow. I'm actually happy today i dont work in the game biz. Always wanted but never 'succeeded' thank god for that lol.
     
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    Agreed. Every video i see about the batmobile looks like a boring action game, not a rocksteady batman game.

    Everything we know about Batman would suggest he wouldn't fight hundreds of drone tanks in the middle of the city, he would investigate how they are controlled and find a solution that would put all drones out of service with just 1 strike.
    THAT is what Rocksteady should have done after Batman realizes in the 1st tank fight the masses of drones are endless.
     

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    Yeah the Batmobile is dumb but the universe of Batman this is set in is pretty damn unrealistic.
     
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    I hope the future patches don't mess up current saves. I don't want to lose my 95% completion save :p I've left riddler-post-catwoman and a few firemen for the "fixed version".
     
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    I think we're all confusing un/realistic with whats fun/not fun.

    Just seen this:
    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=170347025&postcount=7951

    And
    https://steamdb.info/app/208650/history/
    Have they seriously edited the metacritic score!
     
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    Joker's main goal was/is to push Batman up to his breaking point. He wants Batman to lash out. He wants Batman to kill him. Batman's whole identity is built around his self control and if he lets go of that self control then Batman is a monster just like the villains he swore to protect Gotham from. He is pushing him to get him to break and give into the fear and anger that he uses to protect Gotham. Joker and Scarecrow are much in the same in that they are trying to use Batman's fear of failure against him.
     
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    Didnt know they put so much effort into the weapon sounds. They didnt sound that good ingame tbh, lacked some punch.


     

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    Both great/valid points, some id not considered.

    I guess its just more that im bored of the joker.
     
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    I was more than glad to see Hamill back as the Joker. His lines are absolutely fantastic, unlike Conroy's. Batman in this game is unidimensional and boring.
     
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    Well, removed, they can't edit it. And since metacritic put in a policy of only one submission then it'll likely stay removed even after the game is fixed
     
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    Happy I didn't pay for this technical mess of a game, got it free with my 980Ti's.

    I'll give it a year maybe then reinstall it.
     
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    As said above, not edited... removed.
    But either way, who cares? Metacritic is... well... crap. Sorry but it's the same thing that's wrong with reviews.

    A score.
    A "final score" that people throw around like some factual word of god on the quality or enjoyment of something.
    I don't mind the concept of a review, the idea behind them is solid and useful. But, when you put a score on something far too many grasp onto it and simply won't let go.

    Far too often when talking about a game I like, I've had people throw some
    Metacritic score at me and tell why that the game sucks and I shouldn't like it.



    EDIT: Side note.
    I hope they get an update out soon to fix the texture streaming. While it wasn't an issue at first, the more of the game I unlock, the more of a problem it seems to be.
     
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