Barrack Obama save Apple

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  1. Lane

    Lane Ancient Guru

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    US governement save Apple

    Barack Obama has decided to get involved in the patent war between Samsung and Apple, convicted in last June not to market some of its products (iPod, iPad ...). A court ruling unjust according to Obama administration has to cancel due to his veto.

    Sadly, after Samsung have win some patent war against Apple in the USA, it seems the US governement have use his veto for cancel the judgement ...

    Its the first time since 1987 a US governement use this veto ..

    http://www.zone-numerique.com/apple...linterdiction-de-vente-de-produits-apple.html

    http://www.purebreak.com/news/apple-vs-samsung-barack-obama-sauve-la-pomme/62270
     
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  2. Dillinger

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    ugh...
     
  3. kanej2007

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    ^ The above sites are all in French, unable to read...
     
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  5. Lane

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    Im sorry but they was the first to post it ( due to time delay ) , hence why i have need put google translate link .. ( and maybe miss to copy the link )
     
  6. HeavyHemi

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    Basically....translated...

    The U.S. government has canceled the ban on sales of certain products Apple , following an appeal from Samsung . It is the U.S. International Trade Commission had imposed the ban in group Apple . This commission had found that the range of smartphones iPhone , iPod and iPad Samsung violated patents and banned their import into the United States from Asia. This followed a complaint by the South Korean giant in August 2011.
    This is the first such decision in 26 years from Washington

    This is the U.S. Trade Representative Michael Froman who disapproved of the decision to ban against Apple from the ITC. In his letter to the commission, he said "I decided to disapprove the decision of the ITC to issue a prohibition order and I put an end to this order." He also said that Samsung may "continue to assert their rights in the courts," and stated that it had taken into account "the effects on the conditions of competition in the U.S. economy and the effects on American consumers." Apple is satisfied with this decision by the U.S. government warmly welcomed. Both groups in turn accuse of patent infringement before the various courts of the world. The initial ITC ruling in favor of Samsung is symbolic because it concerned only iPhone 3 and 4 products marketed by AT & T, iPad and iPad 2, old products Apple brand.
     
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    ^ Thanks for the translation HeavyHemi. I wish Obama banned all Apple products from the US, such a greedy and evil company they are...
     
  8. buddyfriendo

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    This bugs the crap out of me, the US government needs to say the f**k out of it.
     
  9. PhazeDelta1

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    They're no worse than Microsoft or Intel. At least Apple is giving you a reach around after they have bent you over.
     
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    Microsoft, Intel and Google aren't saintly either.
     

  11. thatguy91

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    The patent system is different for different countries, and this is just further proof that for some countries it favours the countries own companies regardless of whether they are in the right or not. There are so many patents that should never have been awarded, probably a great deal more than things that are genuinely patented. It also appears that in some countries you can freely patent other peoples work if they hadn't already patented it, you apparently don't need proof that you came up with the idea first. You can even patent other peoples work if existing patents expire, even if you don't have the intellectual rights to that patent.

    The reason why these patents can so freely be done is money. You have the patent offices who want to prove their worth to stay in a job, you have the cost of the patent which helps prop up revenue, and because those patents are then 'owned' in that country, it means money can flow to that country through buying rights to the patent, or through legal action.

    In any case, what can only be described as fraudulent misuse of the principles behind patenting serves as nothing more than an additional revenue stream. This isn't so much the case in all countries, but Apple is headquartered in one of them ;). It kind of makes no sense that the government is backing Apple so freely seeing as Apple pays so little tax, much less than very much significantly small companies that may be struggling.
     
  12. Omagana

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this particular decision in line with Europe? Not banning older iPhones, that is.

    EDIT: ars news story
     
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    Of course he did. A lot of government agencies are moving away from Blackberrys and using iPhones.

    Still doesn't make it right though.
     
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    Naa~hh...probably from Apple offering access of backdoors on every iPhone they've ever sold. =b
     
  15. Lane

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    No lol... the governement have open the possibility to other brand to offer their producst to governement agency outside BB.. Samsung have been the first to obtain the approval right for the governement with the S4 ( was not a surprise, they allready work for the US defense in many other level, ( radar, airplanes, avionic processors etc ).. then Apple have pass the first approval ( there are not approved on second level yet, as they need do some modification on their code ).

    To understand, the products approved are not really the same as we can find in our shop, they need some specifications for it.
     

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    In other words, major US company gets punished in the US by the judiciary, executive decides that it would be better for the economy to bypass the rule of law, and lifts the punishment.
     
  17. PhazeDelta1

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    So much for checks and balances. :rolleyes:
     
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    So Apple gives $xxx,xxx,xxx to the Government and Government reverses the ban
     
  19. The Laughing Ma

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    Lol of all companies complaining about someone else abusing the patent system, if it were any other company I would have to say that was a representative just trolling the loser for lols but it's an Apple rep so chances are she was being deadly serious.
     
  20. Lane

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    Yes this words are pretty hilarious, she have miss a chance to keep her mouth closed on this one.

    The federal court / judge condamn Apple, then Apple do an appeal, the other Federal confirm the verdict, condamn Apple again... Finally the US Governement break the decision using a veto right who have been used only a few times in the history of the USA ( the last time it was in 1987 )...
     
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