Bad soldering was the root cause of the bricked EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 graphics cards.

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    I reckon it could be still called that if the machine was erroneously programmed/operated or maintained. Some production machines also simply aren't up to the task. I've personally seen production line robots make mistakes, time after time. Too bad it's always humans who have to clean the mess. The robot couldn't care less.
     
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    Guess we'll just have to "soldier" on.
     
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    umeng2002 Maha Guru

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    If you rely on a machine, you're still liable for the craftsmanship of your product. If a carpenter delivers a crooked table because of a faulty tool, it's still his craftsmanship on the line.
     
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    schmidtbag Ancient Guru

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    This is especially true if others are using the same tool and aren't getting the same problem. Of course, we don't know if others are, but there's a pretty good chance that EVGA didn't develop their own soldering machines.
     
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    /rimshot
     
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    imagine getting lucky enough to even get one of these cards and paying $3k and this happens....I would be so mad
     
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    EVGA generally has an excellent warranty program and a good reputation so I hope they'll continue that trend.
     
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    tunejunky Ancient Guru

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    umm, that's a guarantee
     
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    I think its mostly down to EVGA doing a better QA job.
     

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    TheDeeGee Ancient Guru

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    Gigabyte's fault clearly.
     
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    Time to pack away the New world pitchforks.

    Solder machines can go wrong in a lot of ways.
    The board kan be missaligned so the components are not mounted correctly.
    If solder paste is used, the board must not be stored for a couple of hours, between pasting and solder process.
    The solder can be bad or old.
    The heating curve can be wrong.
    Power can disconnected in the middle of a process that can not be paused.
    The component itself can be stored incorrectly, leading to a dirty surface or microscopic moisture in the component that steams away during soldering.

    I have tried faultfinding with a board that when at 40 degrees C some of the data connections disappeared, they came back again when the board was cooled down.
    The problem was the company had 200 boards made and 100 of them had the problem, all because a cheaper manufacturing process was chosen to save money.
    I am not saying EVGA cheaped out on there boards, but somewhere in the process something went wrong and luckily it was a small batch.
     
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    Yea cause EVGA has shitty Q/A. /sarcasm.

    Seriously, every company is gonna have something go wrong time to time.

    The real its how they handled it, be Evga or be Gigabyte.
     
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    umeng2002 Maha Guru

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    I’ve been buying EVGA for nearly 15 or so years now simply because of their customer service.
     
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    LOLZ^ You aint been on there forums! I remember when I was brain washed and then EVGA stuck it to me, and of course banned me from the forums too, so I couldn't squeal about how they had stuck it to me.
    Gigabyte is owned by Asus, not sure where there stuff is made but it was old news Asus bought out Gigabyte long ago.
     

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    umeng2002 Maha Guru

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    From my personal experience. Before that, it was for their lifetime warranties.
     
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    yeah, I would trust them too right now!... this morning I read something about this only affected about 24 cards worldwide! please don't quote me on that but that seems pretty damn good if you ask me....only 24?

    Apparently they sold those 24 to everyone with a Bullhorn shouting at the sky.

    Once again, I could be wrong about that number and please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

    In fact, EVGA is the first brand I look for when I buy a new video card from NVIDIA

    Love my 5 year old PNY too!
     
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    And in an unrelated story, as a new employment perk, all EVGA employees just received free Amazon Prime for the duration of their tenure!

    *This post is 100% satire
     
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    They said it was 24 cards out of the batch of rma cards they tested. :)
     
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