ATT beta version (UNICODE support)

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  1. eRock9er

    eRock9er New Member

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    Experience. After upgrading to catalyst version 8.9-8.12 from 8.8, every one of them refuses to overdrive the slave card. I can return to the 8.8 and previous releases any time and it works properly in 3D apps.

    Also in my attempts to find an answer, I've seen a few quotes like this in post #10.

    http://www.vgaforum.com/showthread.php?t=15922

    My question then is if it's officially not supported, why did it work up until 3-4 months ago?

    -E
     
  2. Ray Adams

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    You asking me? Ask superior developers from ATI :)
     
  3. BlackByte

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    Hi Ray,

    please more Support for WinXP, Vista is not a powerfull System :)

    Greeting

    BlackByte
     
  4. Ray Adams

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    Its not so easy :) I don't have XP at home, at work. All our computers has Vista installed.
    With your configuration Vista will be much better than XP :)
     

  5. Sanek

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    Noticed a bug: Even if the checkbox next to the clock values in the overclocking menu (the one with fan tab) is not checked, the clock values still get applied.

    Also, after uninstalling CCC and using ATT exclusively for everything (including fan controls), everything ran very unstable and even Vista's gadget panel crashed (even though temperatures were well within limits).

    Once I installed CCC back and reinstalled ATT with overclocking feature disabled, everything runs very stable again.

    My video card does not have stock ATI clocks though. I have HIS HD4870 Turbo 512MB, which is factory overclocked, so maybe ATT did not read some settings correctly and that had something to do with all the crashes.

    //Edit: Card specs:
    http://www.hisdigital.com/un/product2-25.shtml#specification
     
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  6. Ray Adams

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    Why do you think so?

    Don't tell me this because I use ATT without CCC and have no problems. Better check what are you doing wrong.
     
  7. Sanek

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    I was monitoring with EVEREST and even with the checkbox unchecked, I was seing the clock settings set by default (which are lower than my stock settings). As I adjusted the top slider and clicked apply (with the checkbox still unchecked), the new settings were applied and I saw the change in EVEREST.

    The only thing I did was go into the overclocking menu and changed the fan settings. I also saved the profile and checked the checkbox that says whether to load the profile or startup. I did monitor the temperatures closely, so that was not the cause of the crash.

    Like I said, my card is stock overclocked, so perhaps they used custom voltage settings as well - I tried to find this part out, but I could not find any info on this. If ATT applied normal voltages, just like it did with the clocks, then maybe this could be the cause of the crash? Still weird because if anything ATT did was underclock the card, so if voltage got decreased as well then it still should not cause any problems...

    What I see with EVEREST when CCC is controlling the card is that in 2D mode, the GPU clock is set to 500 MHz, once I start any 3D application at all, the GPU clock gets increased to 780 MHz. Unfortunately, I cannot see any GPU voltage settings.

    //Edit: I also checked the HD 4xxx RAM fix checkbox during the install.

    Some of the EVEREST data on the card:
    Code:
    Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4870 (RV770)
    BIOS Version: 011.003.000.001.029329
    BIOS Date: 08/15/08 03:19
    GPU Code Name: RV770
    Transistors: 956 million
    Process Technology: 55 nm
    Die Size: 242 mm2
    Bus Type: PCI Express 2.0 x16 @ x16
    Memory Size: 512 MB
    GPU Clock: 500 MHz  (original: 780 MHz)
    RAMDAC Clock: 400 MHz
    Pixel Pipelines: 16
    TMU Per Pipeline: 1
    Unified Shaders: 800  (v4.1)
    DirectX Hardware Support: DirectX v10.1
    Pixel Fillrate: 8000 MPixel/s
    Texel Fillrate: 8000 MTexel/s
    Memory Bus Type: GDDR5
    Memory Bus Width: 256-bit
    Memory Real Clock: 2000 MHz (DDR)  (original: 1000 MHz, overclock: 100%)
    Memory Effective Clock: 4000 MHz
    Memory Bandwidth: 125.0 GB/s
     
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  8. Ray Adams

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    Man, use search. I wrote about it already! Because original voltage reported by driver is not equal voltage sets by BIOS, when you just apply FAN , ATT will apply clocks too. because it checks current voltage and voltage you select in drop down list.

    What do you mean, you can not see???
     
  9. Sanek

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    Without knowing that fan settings is what caused the problem, would be hard to find something to search for, wouldn't it?

    As for the voltage, I meant I cannot find out what the voltage of my card is - EVEREST does not show it either.
     
  10. Ray Adams

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    Look in ATT SysInfo report.
     

  11. luxy68

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    ok, Ray

    but with another motherboard (nforce570), I get this with the same HD4830 :

    Code:
    Display adapter               ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x944C)
    ______________________________
    Core Name                     
    SubVendor                     Sapphire (P.C. Partner) (174B)
    SubDevice                     E810
    BUS                           2
    Device                        0
    Function                      0
    Base Address 0                E000000C
    Base Address 1                00000000
    Base Address 2                F9000004
    Base Address 3                00000000
                                  
    Bus Type Supported            PCI Express 2.x
    PCI-E Link Width              16
    Max PCI-E Link Width          16
    SMARTGART Installed           No
                                  
    Driver Version                08.12
    Release Version               8.561-081201a1-072271C-ATI
    QuadBuffer Stereo Support     No
    Catalyst Registry Path         
    System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{EECB7093-A2DC-4176-95C1-ED341260D639}\0000 
                                  
    ______________________________
    Clock Information             
    BIOS VPU                      575,00
    Current VPU                   160,00
    BIOS MEM                      900,00
    Current MEM                   250,00
                                  
    ______________________________
    Overdrive                     
    Adapter                       0
    Supported                     Yes
    Type                          PowerPlay
    Level 0 : GPU/MEM/VDDC        160,00/250,00/1,044
    Level 1 : GPU/MEM/VDDC        160,00/250,00/1,044
    Level 2 : GPU/MEM/VDDC        160,00/250,00/1,044
                                  
    ______________________________
    Radeon PCI configuration space
        00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F  
    00  02 10 4C 94 07 00 10 00 00 00 00 03 08 00 80 00 
    10  0C 00 00 E0 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 F9 00 00 00 00 
    20  01 90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 4B 17 10 E8 
    30  00 00 00 00 50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 01 00 00 
    40  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 4B 17 10 E8 
    50  01 58 03 06 00 00 00 00 10 A0 12 00 A0 8F 00 00 
    60  10 09 00 00 01 0D 00 00 40 00 01 11 00 00 00 00 
    70  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    80  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    90  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    A0  05 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    B0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    C0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    D0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    E0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    F0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
                                  
    Hardware Information          ASIC (Software) Method
    Family                        81
    Emulated Revision             2
    Gfx Engine ID                 6
    VRam Bit Width                256
    Installed memory              512
                                  
    OverDrive 5 Limits            Adapter 0
    Core clocks                   Min 80,00 - Max 700,00
    Memory clocks                 Min 125,00 - Max 1200,00
    VDDC                          Min 0,892v - Max 1,158v
    ______________________________
    FAN                           
    1                             121F0287
    2                             50C90A00
    3                             5A50463C
    4                             64615F5D
    5                             51442601
    6                             877A6C5E
                                  
    Video BIOS Information Adapter0
    Version                       011.013.000.000
    Part Number                   11X-B50102-X19
    Date                          2008/09/26 08:27
    Vram Type                     GDDR3
    ______________________________
    Multi VPU Caps                
    ______________________________
    No additional information     
    ______________________________
    Multi VPU State               
    ulActiveAdapters              0
    ulAvailableAdapters           0
    ulCurrentAdapter              0
    ulDongleCapabilities          0
    ulDongleConnection            0
    ulDongleDisplayIndex          0
    ulPrimaryIndex                0
    ulMVPUMaxFBSize               0
    ulMVPUMaxPipes                0
    ulMVPUMaxVisFBSize            0
    ulMVPUState                   0
    State Bits                     
    

    and with a 790GX motherboard, I get this :
    Code:
    Display adapter               ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x944C)
    ______________________________
    Core Name                     
    SubVendor                     Sapphire (P.C. Partner) (174B)
    SubDevice                     E810
    BUS                           1
    Device                        0
    Function                      0
    Base Address 0                D000000C
    Base Address 1                00000000
    Base Address 2                FDEE0004
    Base Address 3                00000000
                                  
    Bus Type                      PCI
    SMARTGART Installed           No
                                  
    Driver Version                08.12
    Release Version               8.561-081201a1-072271C-ATI
    QuadBuffer Stereo Support     No
    Catalyst Registry Path         
    System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{A5E4197C-CC22-4ACE-A89E-F7A036E6E5EE}\0000 
                                  
    ______________________________
    Clock Information             
    BIOS VPU                      575,00
    Current VPU                   160,00
    BIOS MEM                      900,00
    Current MEM                   250,00
                                  
    ______________________________
    Overdrive                     
    Adapter                       0
    Supported                     Yes
    Type                          PowerPlay
                                  
    ______________________________
    Radeon PCI configuration space
        00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F  
    00  02 10 4C 94 07 00 10 00 00 00 00 03 01 00 80 00 
    10  0C 00 00 D0 00 00 00 00 04 00 EE FD 00 00 00 00 
    20  01 EE 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 4B 17 10 E8 
    30  00 00 00 00 50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 12 01 00 00 
    40  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 4B 17 10 E8 
    50  01 58 03 06 00 00 00 00 10 A0 12 00 A0 8F 2C 01 
    60  10 09 01 00 02 0D 00 00 40 00 02 11 00 00 00 00 
    70  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    80  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 
    90  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    A0  05 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    B0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    C0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    D0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    E0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    F0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
                                  
    Hardware Information          ASIC (Software) Method
    Family                        0
    Emulated Revision             0
    Gfx Engine ID                 0
    VRam Bit Width                0
    Installed memory              0
                                  
    OverDrive 5 Limits            Adapter 0
    Core clocks                   Min 0,00 - Max 0,00
    Memory clocks                 Min 0,00 - Max 0,00
    VDDC                          Min 0,000v - Max 0,000v
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    FAN                           
    1                             121F0287
    2                             50C91220
    3                             5A50463C
    4                             64615F5D
    5                             51433628
    6                             87796C5E
                                  
    Video BIOS Information Adapter0
    ______________________________
    Multi VPU Caps                
    ______________________________
    No additional information     
    ______________________________
    Multi VPU State               
    ulActiveAdapters              0
    ulAvailableAdapters           0
    ulCurrentAdapter              0
    ulDongleCapabilities          0
    ulDongleConnection            0
    ulDongleDisplayIndex          0
    ulPrimaryIndex                0
    ulMVPUMaxFBSize               0
    ulMVPUMaxPipes                0
    ulMVPUMaxVisFBSize            0
    ulMVPUState                   0
    State Bits
    ATT can't get information with 790GX ??
     
  12. Ray Adams

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    This is driver information , not ATT
     
  13. Eastcoasthandle

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    Ray, thank you and keep up the good work.
     
  14. luxy68

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    ok, I'll try another test ...
     
  15. spheikki

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    ATT 1.6.9.1374: Apps crash when ATT is running

    Hi,

    Does anyone know why some applications crash in Vista 32bit with ATT 1.6.9.1374 running? When I close the ATT, the apps start fine without crashing.

    Here are some examples of these crashing apps:

    - Almost all Vista (Ultimate) installed default games (e.g. Solitaire)
    - javaw.exe and java.exe (latest JRE 1.6 upd 11)
    - skype.exe (latest)

    I have managed to go around the problem by adding all these crashing executables to ATT exception list, but I am just wondering why so many of the apps crash when ATT is running.

    I have ATI display drivers 8.12 installed only, no CCC installed. My card is Sapphire HD 4870 512MB.

    Best regards,
    Sami
     

  16. hzahid

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    hi ray,

    mcafee detects the downloaded Ati Tray tools setup file as "newmalware.bm trojan" is it a false alarm or something is wrong with the installer!
     
  17. Ray Adams

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    This is something wrong with MCafee :)

    2 spheikki - I have no problem at all. Do you have any kind of antivirus or firewall applications? This is definitely something with your software
     
  18. WhyNot

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    memory clock reported as doubled with my Sapphire X1650Pro AGP

    Hi Ray,

    I like to use ATT on all my computers. However, recently, I've had an issue using it to overclock my card in an older computer. It's using a Sapphire X1650 PRO 512M DDR2 AGP VGA/TVO/DVI-I and the latest beta ATT (v. 1.6.9.1374). The issue, which I've seen mentioned before but still seems to be present, is that the memory clock speed is reported as double what it is set to be, and when I tell ATT to apply the settings, it tries to apply the doubled clock (which usually results in locking up the computer). I can get around it by always halving the clock (to its proper value) manually before hitting "apply", but it's annoying to have to do it all the time. Also, I haven't tried it yet, but I suspect that I'd have to half it again when saving an overclock profile for the correct value to be applied when loading a profile.

    The following is the system info report from ATT:
    Code:
    Display adapter               ATI Radeon Graphics Processor AGP (0x71C7)
    Core Name                     RV535
    SubVendor                     Sapphire (P.C. Partner) (174B)
    SubDevice                     0850
    BUS                           1
    Device                        0
    Function                      0
    Base Address 0                D0000008
    Base Address 1                00009001
    Base Address 2                E5000000
    Base Address 3                00000000
                                  
    Bus Type                      AGP
    Current AGP Speed             4x
    SMARTGART Installed           Yes
                                  
    Driver Version                08.12
    Release Version               8.561-081201a1-072271C-ATI
    QuadBuffer Stereo Support     No
    Catalyst Registry Path         
    System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{A1F95894-651A-4FC9-9E7A-186A37238A87}\0000 
                                  
    ______________________________
    Clock Information             
    BIOS VPU                      600.00
    Current VPU                   594.00
    BIOS MEM                      400.00
    Current MEM                   796.50
                                  
    ______________________________
    Overdrive                     
    Supported                     No
                                  
    ______________________________
    Radeon PCI configuration space
        00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F  
    00  02 10 C7 71 07 00 B0 02 9E 00 00 03 08 FF 80 00 
    10  08 00 00 D0 01 90 00 00 00 00 00 E5 00 00 00 00 
    20  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 4B 17 50 08 
    30  00 00 00 00 50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 01 08 00 
    40  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 4B 17 50 08 
    50  01 58 02 06 00 00 00 00 02 80 20 00 17 02 00 4F 
    60  04 03 00 1F 01 0D 00 00 00 00 01 11 00 00 00 00 
    70  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    80  05 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    90  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    A0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    B0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    C0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    D0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    E0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    F0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
                                  
    Hardware Information          ASIC (Software) Method
    Family                        62
    Emulated Revision             82
    Gfx Engine ID                 3
    VRam Bit Width                128
    Installed memory              512
                                  
    Hardware Information          Direct hardware access
    Installed memory              512 Mb
    Memory Type                   DDR2
    Memory Width                  128 bit
    Tmu                           4
                                  
    ______________________________
    Radeon Registers              
    RADEON_BIOS_0_SCRATCH         00010000
    RADEON_BIOS_1_SCRATCH         0100C000
    GB_TILE_CONFIG                01410011
    HWDREG_00000000               210015EC
    HWDREG_00000001               00000001
    HWDREG_00000002               00000000
    HWDREG_00000003               0000000D
    HWDREG_00000004               25000EA4
    HWDREG_00000005               00000001
    HWDREG_00000006               00000000
    HWDREG_00000007               0000000D
    HWDREG_00000008               00000001
    HWDREG_00000009               00000000
    HWDREG_0000000A               00010017
    HWDREG_0000000B               100FAC8F
    HWDREG_0000000C               44221100
    HWDREG_0000000D               00073011
    HWDREG_0000000E               00000000
    HWDREG_0000000F               0F3FF01A
    HWDREG_00000010               0F3FF01A
    HWDREG_00000011               0F3FF01A
    HWDREG_00000012               0F3FF50A
    HWDREG_00000013               0F3FF01A
    HWDREG_00000014               0F3FF01F
    HWDREG_00000015               000000CA
    HWDREG_00000016               000001CA
    HWDREG_00000017               0000018A
    HWDREG_00000018               0000010A
    HWDREG_00000019               0000014A
    HWDREG_0000001A               0000060A
    HWDREG_0000001B               0000040A
    HWDREG_0000001C               0000001A
    HWDREG_0000001D               00000012
    HWDREG_0000001E               00000017
    HWDREG_0000001F               00008028
    HWDREG_00000020               00000000
                                  
    Video BIOS Information Adapter0
    Version                       009.013.001.024
    Part Number                   11x-8C8513SA-001
    Date                          2007/07/15 23:41
    Vram Type                     DDR2
    ______________________________
    Multi VPU Caps                
    ______________________________
    No additional information     
    ______________________________
    Multi VPU State               
    ulActiveAdapters              0
    ulAvailableAdapters           0
    ulCurrentAdapter              0
    ulDongleCapabilities          0
    ulDongleConnection            0
    ulDongleDisplayIndex          0
    ulPrimaryIndex                0
    ulMVPUMaxFBSize               0
    ulMVPUMaxPipes                0
    ulMVPUMaxVisFBSize            0
    ulMVPUState                   0
    State Bits                     
    
    Thanks in advance for looking into this,
    Jerome
     
  19. Ray Adams

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    Thats very strange. As I remember I've already fixed this bug.
     
  20. WhyNot

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    strange but true

    Yeah, I saw that the double-clock issue had been mentioned before and that you had released a fix for it. But, unfortunately, it seems to still be there or has come back again.

    As an aside, I also noticed that when changing the fan speed, the clocks must be getting updated as well. When I tried changing the fan speed alone (without halving the memory clock back to its correct value) the computer would lock up with a bunch of display corruption. This is not really a problem for me, just an observation.

    I have managed to successfully automatically overclock the card by applying a memory clock of half what it's supposed to be set to and then saving the profile (so that when the profile is restored, the memory clock value is correct and not the doubled one).
     
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