ati radeon/geforce 256

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon' started by smpkcm, Jul 14, 2001.

  1. smpkcm

    smpkcm Guest

    i had a geforce 256 32meg sdr card but the fan wore out and gateway replaced the card with a ati radeon 32med sdr card for free, was that a good deal or not. also can you guys compair the two. Thanks
     
  2. omegaweapon

    omegaweapon Guest

    <IMG SRC="smileys/puke.gif"> <IMG SRC="smileys/puke.gif"> <IMG SRC="smileys/puke.gif"> = Geforce 256<br>
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    ATI has the best image quality, and in most case outperform Geforce GTS 2. You see Geforce 256 is outdated and has 1st geberation T&L.<br>
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    ATI has 2nd generation T&L, pixel tasptry, 3 txture pipline in a single pass. Hyper Z buffer etc. I recommeded you to get ATI Radeon 64 DDR (DDR for good FPS). <br>
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    But I recommeded you to get Geforce 3. <IMG SRC="smileys/hot.gif"> <IMG SRC="smileys/hot.gif"> <IMG SRC="smileys/hot.gif"> <IMG SRC="smileys/hot.gif"> <IMG SRC="smileys/hot.gif"> <IMG SRC="smileys/hot.gif">
     
  3. rcf84

    rcf84 Guest

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by smpkcm:<br>
    <b>i had a geforce 256 32meg sdr card but the fan wore out and gateway replaced the card with a ati radeon 32med sdr card for free, was that a good deal or not. also can you guys compair the two. Thanks</b><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>
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    You'll be happy with the Radeon.<br>
     
  4. CustomX

    CustomX Guest

    dont buy an ATI! ATI = shitty drivers!!<br>
    Nvidia is the best on the market!! they are doing very well<br>
    which means they support alot and have better performance then any other card if you get ATI your gona have problems
     

  5. rcf84

    rcf84 Guest

    CustomX your going to tell me that a Geforce1 32mb SDR is faster then a Radeon 32mb SDR.<br>
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    Then your a Nvidia Zealot...<br>
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    Smpkcm go with the radeon its a great deal. For free you get a faster 2d and 3d card. Also a hardware DVD decoder.
     
  6. YES, a geforce 256 IS faster than a radeon SDR.<br>
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    An MX is faster than a Radeon SDR and the 256 is slightly faster than an MX I'm afraid ..
     
  7. David Deed

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    Actually, a Radeon32 sdr is compared to a geforce256 "sdr" (not ddr) or perhaps better because of HyperZ, GeForce256 sdr or ddr doesnt have it. And the 2nd gen T&L engine.
     
  8. A. R. Pakdel

    A. R. Pakdel Guest

    Some people here need to get their facts straight.<br>
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    A Radeon SDR is considerably faster than a Geforce256 SDR and a Geforce2 MX. In addition, it has a better T&L engine and more advanced features.
     
  9. rcf84

    rcf84 Guest

    Yeah, Has some Directx 8 features compared to the Geforce 256 pur Directx 7 only. Even the Geforce 2 MX doesnt have directx 8 features. Radeon SDR is your best choice.
     
  10. Red_Harvest

    Red_Harvest Guest

    <IMG SRC="smileys/hot.gif"> <br>
    Enjoyed the flame bait post from the nVidiot borg unit. The only vid card I've had troubles with was a GeForce2 GTS. Despite the attempted brainwashing of the online media I reluctantly tried the Radeon 64 DDR, and I figured out that the Radeon is a lot better card, at least in Win98SE. <IMG SRC="smileys/cool.gif"> <br>
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    If you only run 3DMark and Quake 3 then get the GeForce by all means.
     

  11. rcf84

    rcf84 Guest

    Thank godness there is other ATi users on this forum. Well i never bought nvidia. Well buy get the radeon and see the light.
     
  12. A. R. Pakdel

    A. R. Pakdel Guest

    "the light"?<br>
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    Lighten up dude, it's just a video card. For one reason or another people buy different brands, not because they are brainwashed by an evil corporation.
     
  13. The Tweaker

    The Tweaker Guest

    Ha! So you admit it is an evil corp. Yes! Well, with the redesign of the NForce, I would that NVIDIA "don't quit your day job." They should just stick with vid. card. They are trying to get in other aspects of the comp. market probably because they aren't getting high enough sales from the GeForce 3. But why try something if you don't have any experience doing it? That is like a proctologist doing brain surgery, or even ME (not Win ME) doing brain surgery. I don't even think a brain surgeon could rectify Win ME. <IMG SRC="smileys/biggrin.gif">
     
  14. rcf84

    rcf84 Guest

    Tweaker... You have some good views.
     
  15. A. R. Pakdel

    A. R. Pakdel Guest

    Tweaker, you have some narrow views.<br>
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    Nvidia has all the budget they need and the best engineers money can buy. They are also working very closely with AMD for the nForce design. This whole Nvidia not having enough experience to make motherboard chipsets is a bullshit Intel is feeding into the consumer's brains, mostly because Intel resents Nvidia favoring AMD, and also because Intel knows they won't have what it takes to fight off AMD once nForce comes out. Intel integrated graphics anyone?<br>
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    Nvidia doesn't make sound cards either, but Microsoft hired Nvidia to implement their sound technology into Xbox.
     

  16. The Tweaker

    The Tweaker Guest

    "This whole Nvidia not having enough experience to make motherboard chipsets is a bullshit Intel is feeding into the consumer's brains, mostly because Intel resents Nvidia favoring AMD, and also because Intel knows they won't have what it takes to fight off AMD once nForce comes out."<br>
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    Well with the redesign of the NForce and the removal of certain promising aspects of the board, I am a little skeptical of the board too. At first with the promised features, everybody was "NForce all the way!" Now with removal/change of those features, I and I'm sure others are questioning and thinking twice about this board. It is very similar to the R200 Radeon 2 that is coming out. ATI said that the Radeon 2 will beat the GeForce 3 with it's features. If they don't live up to their promise, then people will definitely flock to NVIDIA and when that happens NVIDIA will be able to "take it easy" because there is no competition and majority of gamer consumers will support NVIDIA.<br>
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    Also:<br>
    "Nvidia doesn't make sound cards either, but Microsoft hired Nvidia to implement their sound technology into Xbox."<br>
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    What sound technology? I haven't heard of it. I am sure many people have not heard of NVIDIA's sound technology. If it is soo good to put in the Xbox, then why not use that technology to compete against Creative as to a better sound card. Personally, I would have chosen Creative for sound technology.<br>
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    My concern is with the NForce, why is NVIDIA trying to do a all-in-one? We all know about the VIA four-in-one's and how many people say they are bad/buggy (I see hands all over the room). I'm sure this is to make up for lost revenues because not many people bought a Geforce 3 as NVIDIA had WANTED.
     
  17. The Tweaker

    The Tweaker Guest

    Darn! I keep hitting Submit before I finish my thought.<br>
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    With the NForce:<br>
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    Even if the NForce is as good as the hype, my next mainboard will be an Abit KR7. Personally, I don't trust NVIDIA to buy a mainboard from them. NVIDIA will always be a graphics cards company to me. Nothing will change that. Majorly, Creative will be a sound card company to me. Minorly, I will trust Creative for CD-Roms drives and maybe modems someday. I am assuming that NVidia to create their NForce will take a dab from different MB-general companies: DDR Ram from Abit, North/southbridges from VIA etc.
     
  18. A. R. Pakdel

    A. R. Pakdel Guest

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR><br>
    Well with the redesign of the NForce and the removal of certain promising aspects of the board, I am a little skeptical of the board too. At first with the promised features, everybody was "NForce all the way!" Now with removal/change of those features, I and I'm sure others are questioning and thinking twice about this board.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>
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    The nForce is a not yet released product, so there is always room for skeptism. However, if you remember a while back, one of Intel's officials in an interview balantly stated that nForce will fail because Nvidia hasn't had experience making chipsets. <br>
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>It is very similar to the R200 Radeon 2 that is coming out. ATI said that the Radeon 2 will beat the GeForce 3 with it's features.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>
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    Well, ATI hasn't really said that. It's mostly the people that are assuming that Radeon2 will beat out a Geforce3.<br>
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>What sound technology? I haven't heard of it. I am sure many people have not heard of NVIDIA's sound technology. If it is soo good to put in the Xbox, then why not use that technology to compete against Creative as to a better sound card. Personally, I would have chosen Creative for sound technology.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>
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    The Xbox incorporates Nvidia's sound processor. Also, the nForce has the same sound processor onboard as well. The sound processor is actually much more advanced than the SoundBlaster Live (EAX support + more hardware voices) and it even has Dolby Digital 5.1 ENCODING. Dolby Digital decoding alone is yesterday's news, but Nvidia's sound processor is so advanced that it can encode 5.1 surround sound in real time.<br>
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>My concern is with the NForce, why is NVIDIA trying to do a all-in-one? We all know about the VIA four-in-one's and how many people say they are bad/buggy (I see hands all over the room). I'm sure this is to make up for lost revenues because not many people bought a Geforce 3 as NVIDIA had WANTED.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>
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    A lot of people bought the Geforce3 and the sales were quite high. The reason for making nForce is simply EXPANDING market shares, and ultimately making more money, not because they have made less money than before.<br>
     
  19. The Tweaker

    The Tweaker Guest

    Well, if they want to make more money, then they should take their sound technology and create a sound card and compete with Creative.
     
  20. goodwoodone

    goodwoodone Guest

    just thought i would add a bit more to this disscusion.I have had the voodoo 3000 card good if only in 16 bit then went to ge force sdr good but iffy dvd playback and slow 32 bit so thought to myself radeon here i go got a 64ddr plugged it in and crap it was slower but looked around my settings and what do you know it went fast and smooth.try 3d mark2001 run the lobby scene if its set wrong the frame rate really slows like 12 fps but if its set right 35 fps so i think the radeon is a good card but a bit like a peformance vehicle or woman must be looked after or it wont do what you want.sorry for the sexism.<br>
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    Duron 900mhz<br>
    256ram 133mhz<br>
    aopen mk33 <br>
    radeon 64ddr<br>
    1024 live<br>
    maxtor 15gb 7200
     

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