ATi Radeon 9600 vs Radeon 9700

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon' started by Y2A, Jan 11, 2003.

  1. Y2A

    Y2A Master Guru

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    By 9600 i'm referring to the 128MB Radeon 9500 turned into a 9700...Now while OCing this card in comparison to an OC'd Radeon 9700 (non-pro) which is the better of the two?
     
  2. mengy

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    If the mod works, you basically get a 9700 because core clock speed is the same, memory clock speed is the same. Memory timing might be different but that shouldn't matter too much in terms of performance. If the success rate of the mod is 100% than the 9500 would be better because it's like getting a 9700 for 160USD. I hope that made some sence.
     
  3. Y2A

    Y2A Master Guru

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    I meant both cards overclocked....which would perform better...The 9500 seems to have worse timings...
     
  4. iLL3STBBoY3

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    Hmmmmm....Can the Radeon 9500 128MB non pro or pro be "transformed" into a Radeon 9700 nonpro or pro? ... im so lost in this stuff.
     

  5. mengy

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    I would guess that the performance would be the same because if the hack succeeded then you would have a 9700 from a 9500. It would all come down to which card had better cooling.
     
  6. The difference is basically in the memory bur, the 9500 has a 128-bit bus while the 9700 and 9700 Pro both have 256-bit memory buses. If you can get a 9500 up to 9700Pro clock speeds you will still find that the 9700Pro performs better but the difference would be negligable.
     
  7. mengy

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    Here is what I'm having a problem with and this is why I believe the 9500 np has a 256 bit memory bus

    9500 np: 4 pipelines (128bits ??? 256bits ???)
    9500 pro: 8 pipelines (128 bits)
    9700 np/pro: 8 pipelines

    9500 np core speed = 9700 np core speed
    9500 np mem speed = 9700 np mem speed

    The major differences between the 9500 np a& the 9700 np is that the 9700 has 4 extra pipelines and that the 9500 np has 128bit mem interface and the 9700 has 256 bit.

    The hack enables the extra 4 pipeline on the 9500 np giving it 8 pipelines like the 9700. Now if the memory on the 9500 is 128bit it would only perform as well as the 9500 pro which has 8 pipelines already but instead it exceeds 9500 pro speeds and reaches up to 9700 np territory. This can only suggest that the somehow the 9500 does has a 256bit mem interface.

    This is my theory. I hope it made sence.
     
  8. Evil The Cat

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    the 128mb non pro 9500 deffinatly has 256bit memory path.
     

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