ati radeon 64ddr tweaking tips?

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon' started by mikem, Jul 12, 2001.

  1. mikem

    mikem Guest

    using a ati radeon 64ddr card with:<br>
    PIII 1ghz<br>
    512 ram pc133<br>
    7200rpm hdd<br>
    soyo mobo w/intel 815ep chipset<br>
    sb live sound<br>
    acer cd-rom<br>
    win98se<br>
    still feeling my way around the card and would be grateful for any tweaking tips from users.<br>
    thanks<br>
    m
     
  2. The Tweaker

    The Tweaker Guest

    Since, you have a similar setup as mine, your performance should be the same. For some tweaking tips:<br>
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    Disable FSAA and AA. I can't tell a difference with them on and they slow performance anyways (I'm too busy killing Skaarj and other people to notice jaggies). With FSAA and AA off, you can max the details in your games. IE, in Unreal, I have world and player detail on High.<br>
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    Download a third-party tweaker like RadeonTweaker (my favorite). It is the one where you can double-click the features listed to turn them on or off. In the Help sub folder directory of the program is a batch of HTML files that lists the features of the card, a description, and whether to turn them on or off. I find that this program is very simple and easy to use.
     
  3. mikem

    mikem Guest

    thanks Tweaker, i will give it a try.<br>
    m
     
  4. The Tweaker

    The Tweaker Guest

    Also, I would recommend that you run your games in Direct3D as that is the primary API with the best performance for the Radeon. But don't take my word for it...try out OpenGL and compare the two. I tried to run Unreal in OpenGL, but it didn't look right. The gamma was too dark, couldn't see where I was going and it seemed slower. Maybe that is because I'm using the latest beta drivers (7153); maybe not. But OpenGL screensavers and GLExcess run marviously, so I'm somewhat confused. Maybe they (GLExcess and screensavers) use less features than a 3D game. I also installed Descent 3 and when I get home, I'll run that in OpenGL and see if it is similar to Unreal situation. Also, I was using 16-bit mode, but I doubt that switching to 32-Bit mode will cure all the problems. I think that OpenGL is a cross-platform API and Direct3D is for DirectX. I also heard that Direct3D is better for the Radeon and so far whoever said it is right.<br>
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    But with Direct3D, everything is fine. Unreal runs great, NFS:HS runs great, emulators, like RocknesX and ZSNES for Windows run well. So for Direct3D....no complaints. The one problem I have is that the Radeon does not have VESA 3, like other cards and my old TNT. It only has VESA 2 and lower. This is disappointing since Rocknes (DOS) and MUGEN (DOS) can use VESA 3. But the reason I think is because VESA is for 16-bit mode and ATI hindered 16-bit mode to improve 32-bit mode. But running in VESA 2, I don't see any problems or a difference, so.......<br>
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    My setup is similar to your only I have a KT133 with a VIA chipset and AMD 1Ghz processor with 256MB of 133 RAM run at PC100 (or 256MB of PC100 RAM). I'll have to talk to my computer friend to see what is going on. I also heard of that some VIA chipsets do report PC133 RAM at PC100 and a BIOS flash will fix it, so I hope that is right and not that my comp. friend gave me PC100 RAM and charged me with 133. <br>
    Same speed HD as yours too: 7200rpm.<br>
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    But I would like to heard your comments so far also and to see if "we" have another happy Radeon customer.
     

  5. mikem

    mikem Guest

    hello tweaker,<br>
    your suggestions improved gaming pleasure.<br>
    graphics and speed very good.<br>
    higher resolution and 32bit is the best settings for my radeon.<br>
    system works super, now on to another.<br>
    will be sleeping in the dog house (whoops, no dog), wood shed soon when wife gets wind of my plans.<br>
    thanks for the help tweaker.<br>
    mike
     
  6. The Tweaker

    The Tweaker Guest

    I got a few more "tweaks" up my sleeve. That's cuz I'm THE TWEAKER!!!!!<br>
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    Anyways, set AGP to 4X if possible, and set AGP aperture to 1/2 of system memory. I have 256 MB of RAM and after I did those tweaks, my 3DMark2000 score at 640x480 went from 55xx to 6547!!!!! And that is at 16-bit. SOOOOOOOO close to beating the Creative GeForce 3 at that res. Just 100 points off. And still not overclocked. Imagine if I pump this sucka' to 230/230 at stock cooling. I'll definitely hit 66xx points! Then imagine if I put a cooler on it...GlobalWin FOP whatever and overclock it 10 more MHZ if possible.<br>
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    Also, my modem is sharing an IRQ with another device (not vid. or sound card or HP370 RAID contrlr.); so if I move the modem that should fix it. Also, I have an ISA card for my scanner that I rarely use. If I pull that out and disable ISA and the two COM ports (com1 and 2) that I don't use and defrag, then I definitely beat out that GeForce 3.<br>
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    OMG...I just realized something....I HAVE RUN OUT OF TWEAKS!!! NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! <IMG SRC="smileys/mad.gif"> <IMG SRC="smileys/mad.gif"> <IMG SRC="smileys/mad.gif"><br>
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    What am I going to do now? <IMG SRC="smileys/confused.gif"> <br>
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    P.S. Actually it is not really fair. In the review, the author used a 800MHZ processor. I have a 1 GHZ (Gigahertz) processor...that is why I have a higher score (unfortunately only at that res.). I think that to show a spectrum of possibilities that a review should use a low-end processor (800MHz), a medium-end processor (1000-1200MHZ) and a high-end processor (1700-&gt; MHZ), so people looking at the review can see how important a CPU is to benchmarking. I'm not saying it right.<br>
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    For example, In the review, the author used a 800 MHZ processor. Well, I have a 1000Mhz processor. How would I stand? I know I would get a higher score, but how much higher? What if I had a 1.7 GHZ processor, what would be my score; how much higher would be my FPS and 3DMark200/2001 score? <br>
    This is why I think that a reviewer should use a low-end, middle-end and high-end processor to show the range of scores and let people assess where they are according to their own setup.
     
  7. rcf84

    rcf84 Guest

    Tweaker register and your welcomed here.
     
  8. The Tweaker

    The Tweaker Guest

    "Register and I'm welcome here." That sounds like that I'm not welcome; and I'm certainly not spamming the forums...I'm offering help...valuable help. I won't take that comment as harsh. <br>
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    The reason that I went with a site that allows unregistered users to post was because I was tired of registering with BBS boards and posting two or three messages, not getting replies and rarely posting again...*cough* 3dFiles.com *cough*.<br>
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    Anyways, I was thinking about registering, but I would like to use "The Tweaker" screen name; but I can't because the name is in your database; and I couldn't find an email address for one of the admins./moderators. If this wouldn't be too tough, could you remove the screen name from the database so I can register with the name? Also, once I register, could an admin./moderator edit the number of posts that I have to include the posts that I made as a unregistered user. <br>
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    For example, I register with The Tweaker screen name; for the number of posts, instead of 1 as the initial post, have it to 15 to include my previous posts (I don't remember the number of posts, but around there).<br>
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    Your help would be appreciated. <IMG SRC="smileys/smile.gif">
     
  9. Try The_Tweaker
     
  10. The Tweaker

    The Tweaker Guest

    What about the posts? I am looking for an admin/moderator to reply (not to discredit you).
     

  11. mikem

    mikem Guest

    thanks for the tweak tips; will try them and post results.<br>
    m
     
  12. rcf84

    rcf84 Guest

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by The Tweaker:<br>
    <b>"Register and I'm welcome here." That sounds like that I'm not welcome; and I'm certainly not spamming the forums...I'm offering help...valuable help. I won't take that comment as harsh. <br>
    The reason that I went with a site that allows unregistered users to post was because I was tired of registering with BBS boards and posting two or three messages, not getting replies and rarely posting again...*cough* 3dFiles.com *cough*.<br>
    Anyways, I was thinking about registering, but I would like to use "The Tweaker" screen name; but I can't because the name is in your database; and I couldn't find an email address for one of the admins./moderators. If this wouldn't be too tough, could you remove the screen name from the database so I can register with the name? Also, once I register, could an admin./moderator edit the number of posts that I have to include the posts that I made as a unregistered user. <br>
    For example, I register with The Tweaker screen name; for the number of posts, instead of 1 as the initial post, have it to 15 to include my previous posts (I don't remember the number of posts, but around there).<br>
    Your help would be appreciated. <IMG SRC="smileys/smile.gif"></b><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>
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    ooops... i should said<br>
    <br>
    "Register and Your welcomed here"
     

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