Assassin's Creed: Valhalla

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  1. Passus

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    In multiplayer they should be illegal but in singleplayer they dont hurt any other players

    saying that though i do agree they are just plain bad
     
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    Pay-to-win mechanisms in games you already pay full price for should be illegal imo.

    No one is forcing anyone to buy anything, no, but these are a clear bait for people who might be "fooled" into using them.
     
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    emperorsfist Maha Guru

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    The problem I have with these "time saving MTXs" in single-player games, is that what's stopping the developer / publisher making the game grindy on purpose so that people have an incentive to buy a booster? Sure, it's still "optional", but it's done in a way that's sleazy to me. MTXs aren't born out of somebody's kindness towards people with not much free time.
     
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    Exactly. MTX's are profiteering, nothing more.

    Though what I've heard of Valhalla it's less grindy and better than Odyssey so credit where due. All the more reason to not have XP boosters then.
     

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    Imo it's a non-issue in this game. You more or less gain 2 skill points with every mission you do.
     
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    I never had the feeling that AC Origins, Odyssey or Valhalla are grindy on purpose to push players towards MTX.

    The last game that did that was the last dead space title and Shadow of Mordor 2.

    I really think Ubisoft keeps the balance just right - so far.
    It's ok to be concerned of course, just look what Take2 does to RDRO.

    Why is nobody upset about that instead i wonder.
     
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    Oh I am.

    Did you see the gold nerf, holy procreating crap why. The outlaw pass now takes 1440 xp per level rather than 1000xp per level, such a greedy update.




    But as for the AC games, I've put over 100+ hours into Odyssey and never felt like it was grindy.
    I think a lot of it is because the boost option was there people automatically felt negative toward the game.
     
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  8. styckx

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    I've reached the "I need a break" point..

    Main quests all completed.. 88% completion, 64hrs in.. I'm burned out.. The ending was probably one of the most anticlimactic endings to an AC Creed though... It just sorta ended with a fizzle and off to grind again..
     
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    Tbh i haven't really found the story very good in any of the assassins creed games, but the gameplay, setting and atmosphere is very enjoyable, so it's fine for me.
     
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    I agree with the latter, hence I still paid for the ultimate edition because I knew I was going to get my mileage out of the game. Origins and Odyssey were extremely well supported WELL beyond the launch.. I know people love to bash Ubisoft but the hell if they didn't learn how to continue to make both games shelf life extend well beyond expectations. So I knew Valhalla would be too.

    That being said I though the story arc, and ending to both Origins and Odyssey both had a satisfying conclusion. Maybe Valhalla will in DLC in the future but it literally just felt like any other quest ending before returning you to grind out the rest of the stuff left..
     

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    The Origins story was widely beloved by critics and fans for many reasons, it definitely drew me in more than usual because I'm a father of a young boy just like the protagonist Bayek.
    I replay Origins once every 6 months and always find something I missed before, I recommend you give it another go yourself.

    And if you pay close attention to the nuances you'll find the relationship between Bayek and his Wife is really an amazing piece of writing, the writers and actors did an excellent job, it completely captured the complex nature of a husband and wife mourning the loss of their son on their own terms along with the complexities that come with a tragedy of such proportions.
    There was no "cookie cutter" story arc there, to me it's probably the finest piece of writing I've ever seen in a game, I've never had any other game suck me into it's world like that one did.
     
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    I just finished origins a couple of weeks ago, and i disagree.

    The relationship between bayek and his wife, it just made no sense... out of the blue she just leaves him, and he is just like "ok". Having recently been left by the love of my life myself, i can't see ANYONE reacting like that. If they do, then they don't really love that person, otherwise they would get devastated...

    And let's say that was decent writing, that's just a very minor plot, which the witcher does much better, and so much more. Witcher 3 is just worlds beyond the story in origins in every single way.

    Origins is fun, don't get me wrong, but that story line was just... meh... as in all other AC games.
     
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    I've been playing Unity and to be honest I'm not even sure what the story is, just go here, kill this person, go there, kill that person, then a climbing puzzle... then more killing.

    maybe I'm just oblivious......

    It's kind of sad when you think about it..... I mean it's something you paid full price for, you would expect the content in it would be available in it after having already paid for it.

    Different title but still Ubisoft, good example of the crap they are pulling with these stylized interactive shops... I mean "video games".

     
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    Actually if you look at statistics a lot of couples separate after losing their only child, it's a fairly common occurrence, I think that's why they went with the realistic angle on that story arc.
    And it may seem it's a minor plot, but Bayek and his wife actually spend pretty much the whole game seeking revenge for their son, only toward the later missions does Bayek realize they may be deviating from that path, around the Cleopatra story line when Bayek realizes they're being used as assassin pawns. But at that point Bayek's wife doesn't even care,she just wants endless blood on her hands and convinces Bayek to follow her.

    And Witcher 3 has it's moments definitely, the Baron storyline gets a lot of attention, but there's way too much filler in that game making it hard to focus on anything specific.
    I am however waiting for the next gen Ray Tracing update before I replay it again, as I've only finished it once.
     
  15. AsiJu

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    Yup.

    I mean it's nonsensical:
    Hey kids, here's a compelling game with open world and RPG progression systems but the best part is you can skip all of it! For a price.

    Besides video games have had a free solution for skipping progression since forever, called cheats.
    If you want to enable the player to skip something then allow a corresponding cheat (in SP games, obviously).

    Yes, I know, the cheat wouldn't net in any money. Radical concept anno 2020.
     
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    I know that most women withdraw from the man after losing their child, the issue i have with it is how it just comes out of the blue in the game, and how bayek is just "ok" about it. Cause up till the splitting point, the game makes a big effort in showing that his wife is the love of his life, and the most important thing to him... and if that was the case, then he wouldnt just be "ok" about his love leaving him.
     
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    If anyone is annoyed by the day/night cycle changing too fast and you want more daytime, or more night then you can just meditate with the G key (default.) And after about 15 seconds of a meditation panning cutscene it goes from night to day, or the other way around. It's not a longer daytime but you get more daytime by skipping the night. Sorry if this is already basic knowledge here.
     
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  18. Passus

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    Night time has some of the best atmosphere in the game so why skip it i'll never understand
     
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    That day / night cycle is indeed way too fast ! Imo the game spend at least twice as much time in daylight.
     
  20. DocStr4ngelove

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    They introduced savegame 'hacking' via some ingame menu later in Origins / Odyssey(?), so altering day/night cycles might become a feature in the near future.
     

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