Assassin's Creed Odyssey

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  1. JonasBeckman

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    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthread.php/2199636-Assassin’s-Creed®-Odyssey-–-1-5-3-Patch-Notes-amp-Sneak-Peek

    1.5.3 came out, wasn't expecting to hear about more patches for the game but they fixed a few bugs and added the Ezio armor into the games premium shop.

    EDIT: Well it is also possible to use the ore and events to in due time grab the remaining items that way.

    Got about half of the items that existed when I wrapped the game up so it could be done but it'd take a really long time and a large amount of work plus the number of legendary type items from the store and not just random in-game items isn't as high as the initial rewards were.

    RNG and all but from one every third urn to one almost every tenth yeah it's probably slightly modified since the game came out though it could have changed further either more restrictive or maybe weighted for certain items.
    (A lot of that due to players being able to get multiples in Origins but Odyssey doesn't do duplicates and registers the gear as acquired so it'll always be there.)


    Anyways that aside though the Ezio armor continues on it's quest to be I think the most returning outfit in the entire series. :D

    That and the various takes on the titular music are quite iconic though so not surprising I guess, Altairs while nice is a bit more plain but that was sorta the point whereas Ezios really stand out.
    Kinda, much as a heavily armed peaceful monk would but heh the roads are pretty dangerous and the speed limit of The Old Kingdom was very much enforced far as I remember.
    (Oh well the kinks can be worked out if they ever do a re-release of the very first game at some point.)
     
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  2. DocStr4ngelove

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    Finally an excuse to play this again ;)
     
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    I couldn t play this game for more than 40 hrs, this levelling up thing which u are forced to,to make u beat and finish bosses was way too much for me, it s a great game but needs 150 hrs or more
     
  4. JonasBeckman

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    Yeah there's a few areas the game will direct you towards that do have a higher minimum level and then back and forth plus with the level cap raised from 50 to 70 and then 99 plus the infinite leveling after that for very minor gradual boosts if you do the side content the game will keep scaling up requiring stronger weapons and armor and a bit of grind to either find new stuff or upgrade things like existing legendary or other good gear with what must be a record amount of wood, metal, shiny rocks and animal asses per gear piece. :p

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TwentyBearAsses

    Questacles! :p
    (Though to the games credit the big fetch ones are mostly the randomized or online content with the challenges and the Hermes statue stuff.)

    Raising the level cap twice would also shift how things scale and how much you'd have to grind although the main quest itself I think caps out a bit around the 50'th level before it starts scaling up to higher.
    Far as I know the scaling can also only be influenced and not disabled so it's +- 0,1 ,2 or 3 levels or something to that nature together with the difficulty level for overall Spongy Spartan HP buffing for enemies. :p
    (Although I find the triple arrow Athenian marksmen more dangerous though the big-boy Spartan heavies can certainly take a few hits.)


    Some trekking too even after the initial sailing around everywhere getting at least one fast travel beacon / object on each of the islands and a couple of bosses when the regular enemies weren't quite tanky enough hah.
    The game has it's good points but I don't know if I'll replay it anytime soon it's pretty close up there as a 100 hour time spender and trying to rush the content either hits a level gate eventually where the scaling is too high so players just take nearly 1-hit kill damage (At a five level difference I think that's when this kicks in.) while having to trick or exploit the AI to do chip damage if anything so some side questing or grinding is needed to at least match the level of the final few zones as the game will eventually direct players to these for another series of chain quests and events in these stories that make up the full main journey or quest itself.

    Basically the game does take a lot of time which can be fun and good but not everyone can invest that amount of time and Origins was already a pretty lengthy game too.
    (Picking that up later or after it got done patching and going from that to Odyssey here would probably be a bit tough too.)
     
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    How do i get the Ezio outfit? Can't find anything
     
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    Think you have to buy it from the store or get lucky with Orichalcum? Not sure though, I'm done with the game after ~230 hours /played. I chose to ignore most of the premium outfits/weapons/mounts as I liked Amazon outfit the best on my Kassandra anyway, as it reminded me a lot of my childhood hero Xena. :p
     
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    Yeah I think it works similar to Origins so it's weighted for a while and you have a heightened chance to get it when trading 20 stones = 1 urn of RNG occasionally the fixed items might also be Ezio related but it's rarely the whole set and it takes time for the gear pieces to cycle around.

    Got a ton of that darker armor in Origins from the camel caravan child, son of RNG but at least in that game it was possible to *whoops* and lock money to a very high value whereas Ubisoft (Unsurprisingly.) made the ore value server side in this game so it's no longer possible to do things that easily along with other server side enhancements and trying to mitigate exploits.

    EDIT: You will still get a lot of junk though and the occasional Stone-potted Sailor or Houseplant Horse because those urns sure are roomy.
    (Tons of purple random thingies of even more RNG, kinda liked the fixed system of stats better in Origins in that regard.)

    EDIT: Guess they're something like wine pitchers thinking of it, maybe not pitchers of planting.
    (Well it's not a crate of some kind at least.)
     
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    Guys, we get the EZIO set just for playing this weekend as a gift!

    So yeah, no challenge or anything, just play the game. Bit sad, but hey i'm not complaining.

    Values in this video:

     
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    It took the apocalypse for me to decide to finish this game. Not really a complement.
     

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    Hi guys,

    How the hell do you activate rage mode on PC? I forgot what button and nothing mentioned in the bindings. Thanks!
     
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    Rage mode? You mean the ability you can unlock and use? There's a skill you can buy that allows you to do X more damage for X amount of seconds and avoid death, but you have to get the talent and assign it to one of the 1-4 key buttons. Look in the ability screen and make sure you have it unlocked and assigned to a button.

    Great game btw. Looking for all the cultists to wipe out is great and gives a lot of purpose to the world and exploration.
     
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    AH ok thanks
     
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    probably the best game in the franchise but way too long, maybe people can invest 100 hours and more during quarantine, but on a normal day i don t think i would be able to take this much time grinding and levelling up...
     
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    why they invented xp booster cheats.

    or u could give ubi $$ for one.
     

  16. DocStr4ngelove

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    Actually i think the game could be finished in 20hours if you just keep pushing through the main story missions. But yeah you would lack resources to level up quickly enough so fights would eventually get very hard - but then playing on easy might do the trick.

    I started the game with the 'exploration' game mode on and sometimes didnt even know where to go for the next mission. Like in the beginning of the quest 'Snake in the grass' where it just says 'Elpenor is still somewhere in Phokis'. Good luck finding that guy.

     
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    So i picked this up and i gotta say the gpu utilisation is still somewhat bad. With Vsync on, i'm dropping to 50 fps with 75% gpu utilisation. Cmon Ubisoft.

    I have extra power, bloody use it. Vsync off or no seems to make no difference, and forcing the gpu too much results in much lower frames - im kinda stuck on this.
     
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    Known problem, you need to use this:

    https://github.com/Kaldaien/SpecialK/releases/tag/sk_odyssey

    You can also try DXVK (may have been covered in this thread already):

    https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases

    There are many reports saying this raises AC:O's average FPS considerably.
    EDIT: It's a .tar.gz archive, use 7-zip or any other archiver that supports tar.gz, and drop the x64 .dlls into the .exe directory.
     
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  19. JonasBeckman

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    That bottleneck situation should work better on a NVIDIA GPU though but the utilization of driver command lists and deferred render contexts which I've forgotten a fair bit about how it worked but in short the game really wants a 8-core processor ideally something more recent and thus faster/more efficient.
    (AMD in turn works against a I believe it was compared to be a near 40% performance deficit against NVIDIA because their cards don't support D3D11.1 driver command lists although Radeon VII and the Navi 5700 struggle on pretty well, brute force all the problems!)

    Even so though and with a SSD and high-end RAM (Removing those bottlenecks.) odyssey just has a TON of draw calls and CPU bottlenecks way above the recommended for DirectX 11 so it's unfortunate Ubisoft never patched in D3D12 or Vulkan API support.
    Origins hits this primarily in Alexandria whereas the asset density and additions like the cloud quality setting for volumetric lights pushes most hardware to it's limits.
    (For the cloud quality setting last I checked a comparison the high setting was close to a 40% performance decrease alone and ultra close to 60%)


    In short the game is just very demanding and pushes DirectX 11 above it's intended limits I'll have to look it up but I think the draw calls the game is pushing were way above the intended D3D11 limits so that's going to hamper things and not just for the bigger cities in this game.


    EDIT: Well should work better or be less required is just a expectation I suppose as there are cases where DXVK also improves NVIDIA GPU performance or at least stabilizes fluctuations and resulting framerate drops even if the max performance might be a bit lower.
    Different games and game engines and different demands or at worst different issues or bottlenecks to get around or limit as much as possible. :)
     
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    I'm at 130+ hours and finished the main campaign but the "Fate of Atlantis: Episode 1" just started and now I'm in a whole new world. Does this game ever end? haha.

    I'm still really enjoying the game. It grabbed me a lot more than I thought it would. Looking all over for those cultists was a great addition to the series.
     

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