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Assassin's Creed Odyssey

Discussion in 'Games, Gaming & Game-demos' started by Netherwind, Jun 11, 2018.

  1. DocStrangelove

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    Uplay is pretty straightforward by now - no problems at all. Even recognises when you just drag & drop a game installation into another folder an another drive. Next time you wanna play it the button says "download" but you get the option to just find the new installation location.
     
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    I bought this (gold ed) for ~25eu during the sales. Anyone know what the big DLC timetable's meant to be? I'm not really in any rush to play this since I've probably 2 years worth of games on my owned games backlog to go through but it'd be nice to know
     
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    Bought it on the sale for 23€ with extra discount.

    Tried to get 4K@60fps in the benchmark which was easier said than done. Had to turn down a lot of things and Shadows to Medium is what did the trick but they sure look really bad now :( Anyone with a 1080Ti care to share your settings?

    Also this game absolutely hammers my CPU (80-100% during bench) which could explain why the GPU isn't maxed out? I get 96% load at most.
     
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    I have a 1080TI, but I run the game at 2k. I run everything on maxed out and on average get an fps of 80 and highest I saw was just over 100. It is quite demanding.
     

  5. Netherwind

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    I could play the game at 3440x1440, that's true. I wouldn't want to play at 2560x1440 though on my screen due to black bars.
     
  6. sertopico

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    Even if it still looks gorgeous most of the times, I think the Anvil starts to be old, probably a new engine would help against the crazy CPU use... I read around that it dares to go under 60 fps even with the latest 9 series from Intel. As a starting point, the best you can do is turning down clouds to very high or high (ultra eats 25% of performance). I play at 2k with 140% scaling (almost 4k) with everything maxed out except clouds on very high and i get 45-60 fps. The torch is the real fps killer though: when real time shadows kick in i can lose even 20 fps, ending up to 30ish fps. In this case you have to turn down shadows as well.
     
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    Below 60 with the latest 9 series is twisted. I've already turned down the clouds but will check it out.

    Two things that are the same from Origins seems to be:
    1. Anti-Aliasing Low has better performance than Anti-Aliasing Off
    2. Torch and shadows kills performance unless in completely dark areas.
     
  8. Party Poison

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    Ive really got back into this after a rebuild. Game runs so much better overall, Could be hardware could be patches, But at first the game didn't grab me like Origins did.

    Last few nights though i've been laying back and really really enjoying it.
     
  9. tensai28

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    Tried this game out and managed to get it running at a constant 60fps at 4k. One thing is for sure, it's terribly optimized. I had to overclock my cpu (9600k) to 4.9ghz to keep it from having annoying dips in the city. Stock would hover in the 50s especially in the opening battle. 4.6ghz would play at 60 but with occasional drops to 59/58 and only at 4.9ghz was it smooth and perfect. Had to also drop aa to low and volumetric clouds to medium and I'm using a 2080ti. Just doesn't seem like there is much going on in this game to justify these rediculous requirements.
     
  10. sertopico

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    1. AA low runs better than off because they are using a temporal reconstruction technique, so the only times you see the image at native res is when you stand still. You will notice that with AA on medium or low there is that typical ghosting/shimmering effect especially on alpha textures.
    2. Yes, on that regard there is nothing we can do. In this new episode even other light sources apart from you torch cast real time shadows in the night time or inside caves, that's why performance is sometimes so miserable.
     
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    Just have some filthy Cultists to hunt down and murder now. Think there are about 8 or 9 left. Loving this game to death and is the most time i've ever invested in an AC game. Can't wait for the next instalment. :)
     
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    Game runs miles better for me with the 9700k over my 7700k.

    Cpu usage in cities is crazy but its oc'd to 5.1 and its a huge help
     
  13. tensai28

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    Yeah I could definitely see that. Well at least I got it running at a constant 60fps which is all I need since I play at 4k 60hz/60fps vsync locked. Performance is absolutely fine now at 4.9ghz just feels rediculous how much cpu this is requiring.
     
  14. Netherwind

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    1. I had no idea! So one should really use AA High at all times to get that native image.

    I was going to ask what settings you use but then I saw your GPU and now I won't ask :)
     
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    yeeeeaah.....


    Holding off till i get a 3700x or something like that
     

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    I must say it is pretty well done but if you are playing on your monitor from a close distance is very noticeable in my opinion. Playing it on a tv from your couch would make you forget about it probably.
     
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    To be quite honest, I don't understand how people can play this game with mainstream CPUs. My CPU gets completely destroyed by this game even at 4500MHz. The CPU usage is at 90-100% most of the time and the stuttering is definitely an issue when playing at a lower resolution like 3440x1440 which is why I pretty much have to play at 4K to increase the GPU load but the funny thing is that the GPU is never maxed...it's mostly at 95-96% and I have no idea what causes this. I remember when I got AC:Unity and had the same problem with my old 3570K which I late replaced with the 6700K. The difference was day and night and I gained a lot of FPS just from switching CPU.

    Anyone know if there is a CPU hungry setting besides clouds?

    You're right that it's a bit blurry when playing on a monitor (at 3440x1440) but looks crispy at 4K on a TV. I feel that the FPS gain is good enough to make that trade-off.
     
  18. JonasBeckman

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    The game creates a lot of threads and uses NVIDIA's deferred render contexts which increases CPU load even further though AMD GPU's are still hit pretty hard but on a 8-core processor it's not going to be 90 - 100% but more like up to 80% utilization depending on area. Cities such as Athens and Sparta are the worst and the game could have really benefited from low-level API usage which there are traces of D3D12 in the game engine but it's not something that can be enabled same as Origins. :)

    In rough terms via the deferred render contexts the game will spawn 8 additional worker threads and try to assign these to available CPU cores but even without this the game will still spawn enough helper threads to fully load up a hexa core + hyper-thread (SMT on AMD.) so there's 12 - 16 threads in action at all times and then there's threads for streaming, audio, framerate limiter I believe runs on a thread too and other tasks. Minimum is a quad core, recommended is hexa but it'll still stutter in situations such as cities and the recommended is a octa core but these are fairly high-end enthusiast processors on PC with a cost to match at least until more recently from AMD though efficiency and clock speed also make a difference as does RAM and of course GPU load itself which is still going to be a major bottleneck issue.

    Add in an SSD and the game can now send data to and from memory much faster and add a 16ms time instead of 33.3ms (30 FPS vs 60 FPS) and the game can now push hardware to it's limits on PC pretty much.
    GPU wise well that's the volumetric settings causing a up to 40% performance penalty on mid to high end cards but even the 1080Ti and Vega models (NVIDIA and AMD respectively.) will see a nice uplift from reducing this mainly from ultra to high but then also from high to medium still sees a sizeable GPU performance improvement.
    (Curiously this also happens under clear weather conditions and similar when there's little to no actual clouds so it's still running some compute task even if you can't really see the difference.)


    Still don't have the best understanding of Anvil Next 2.0, initially I saw it as a good early example for next-gen game engines and graphical showcases but there's various problems with performance both CPU and GPU wise, draw calls is really high from memory although I can always measure it next time I wrap up that daily activity mission and go into the game and it doesn't scale down very well on it's demands for the CPU so hexa or octa core as a quad will stutter more noticeably though it's mostly the bigger cities which probably goes back to the draw calls and also other calculations like the AI and what not. :)
    Pretty sure DX12 support is planned but we'll see when it gets implemented though if AC Italy whatever the next game will be called is going to be even larger it's probably going to push the game even harder if the engine maintains similar designs though we'll see I suppose when it gets unveiled. Might also be 2020 and target the next generation of consoles and that will also see things shift a bit though the first year or two should still see plenty of cross-platform titles before the next console system overtakes entirely. :)

    Short of it is though that it's a very demanding game on all the components in the PC both GPU and CPU but then also RAM which can show a surprising performance increase when upgraded and also I/O with HDD or SSD changing things up a bit.
     
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    Found a "Cave of Kratos" ... no Leviathan axe or blades of Athena :(
     

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