ASRock Announces Windows 11 Compatible Motherboards

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    "ASRock announced that what motherboards will be compatible with for Microsoft's next OS, Windows 11..." - this doesn't sound right. "that" and "for" should be removed.
    But this pushing for Windows 11 transition is very interesting. TPM2.0 is 'great' but doing nothing to prevent ransomware or any other real security threat. If someone unauthorized have access to your computer then you have much bigger problems than missing a security chip. Also it is very interesting to find what happens if that security chip TPM2.0 goes faulty after 2 or 3 years of use. This is clearly not about security but how you can go to the next level of data mining. Just my opinion.
     
  3. kakiharaFRS

    kakiharaFRS Master Guru

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    almost all recent motherboards are compatible....compatible aka as a HEADER that require a separately buyable MODULE
    that you cannot buy and that half the brands don't even sell
    I saw Asus and Gigabyte who "supposedly" sold them at one point..but so little that they were insta-gone at the announcement, most countries never had any stock because there was no market/customers for them
    there's also at least 2-3 types of them, of course incompatible with each other

    even Linus made a very confusing WAN show stream where he started by saying the same I do here and then went into the "boards are compatible" unwillingly repeating the lie that "your hardware will work" when it won't, very annoying...

    reminds me of when I bought the 3090 for roughly 1600€ 1 day after the NA tariffs announcement and people called me crazy...now it's 3000€ I'm telling you...99% of computers won't be able to install win11 with a tpm 2.0 requirement, nothing else than laptops has it basically I checked a few entreprise desktops yesterday and none had the actual chip even on 13'000$ monsters
    secure boot is NOT tpm, cpus do not have tpm, you need an actual physical tpm module
     
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    My ASRock Z370 Killer SLI/AC (4 year old mobo) supports TPM 2.0 and runs Windows 11 just fine.

    I have an empty header on the board, but when I enable all this stuff in my BIOS it works. It's all there built in. The TPM.MSC tool in Windows 10 also comes back with "The TPM is ready for use" - "Manufacturer Version: 320.0 blah blah blah.

    Maybe not all boards with the chipsets ASRock has listed here do, I dunno, but I can vouch for this particular board.

    But yeah, I strongly agree that Microsoft suddenly requiring all of this for their Win 11 is complete horse-sh$T (that's a huge understatement) and IS going to cause a lot of problems and confusion.

    ...and no I'm not posting this to rub it in anyone's face... this is genuinely FYI here.
     

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    yeah, TPM was an enterprise solution that works well. there are several TPM modules on the market for server boards and forward looking consumer mobo's have headers, but no available modules for their socket.
    but as most people aren't to-ing and fro-ing with sensitive proprietary data, TPM is a waste of time in the consumer field and basically offers psychological coverage for Intel's exploitable cpu's.
    none of which helps if you get ransomware
     
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    AMD Cpus most definitely have AMD CPU fTPM and run Windows 11 fine.
     
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    As do Intel CPUs going back about as far. MS started mandating compatibility in 2012, so pretty much all modern PCs should have a TPM socket/pin header.
     
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    TimmyP Maha Guru

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    But to clarify: you do not need a module for Ryzen processors, they have a firmware solution driven by the CPU (fTPM).
     
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    Gigabyte are about to release a new line of X570 motherboards. No doubt they'll have "Windows 11 ready" sticker slapped all over their boxes.
     
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    Intel has PTT
     

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    GOT TPM?
     
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    yah my Motherboard support the TPM requirement my cpu is not support by os though or so MS was to tell us
     
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    Correct, the CPU compatibility and the TPM requirements are separate. Chances are they will expand the CPU list before the OS releases, the current list is the ones they have certified so far. Given the 100% overlap between CPUs with hardware changes to fix Spectre/Meltdown and the CPUs that are compatible with Win11, though, I would not hold my breath.
     
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    I have a 5950X with a asrock x570 taichi, but i don't know if i am going to really upgrade to windows 11 right away when windows 10 will be supported till 2025.
     
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    A properly setup bitlocker with a tpm, means that your files should be fine. Companies have been using TPMs for years, and what most people have is a software TPM that the CPU exposes as a virtual device, nothing happens to it.
     

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